CHRISTIAN CONVERSION
By
Gary DeVaney
"To practice Christian Conversion amounts to a Vampire’s need to feed."
(Inspired By Pastor Arnold)
The Blackmail / Extortion / Coercion of Religion is:
"Be like me - or else!"
Christianity is a constant war between assumed-authority and stand-up free-will. Christianity consists of and projects self-assumed, converted and superior wills that imperialistically and aggressively wage war on what Christians consider to be evil. If you live free and exercise your free-will, Christians will condemn you to be evil - and to not be like them.
Coercion is the practice of forcing another to behave in an involuntary manner by use of threats, rewards, intimidation or some other form of force. In law, coercion is codified as a duress crime. Such actions are used to force a victim to act in the desired way. Coercion may involve the actual infliction of physical pain / injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat. The threat of further harm may lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced.
Torture (Eternal Torment) is one of the most extreme examples of coercion.
Practicing Christians demand Conversion by threat of Eternal Torment. For those not "saved" - pain is inflicted for eternity.
What makes Practicing Christians think they have the right to tell others how to live by threat of consequence?
John 15:16 Jesus Christ said: Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you...
So, Christians, you do believe this Bible C&V, right? If so, what is all this conversion hassle and nonsense?
A Composite Christian Believer Attempts To Convert A Free-Will Thinker
Christian: Hi! I am a practicing fundamentalist Christian. You are a sinner. As a Christian, I assume that your salvation is my business. My job is to convert you to Christianity and to break your evil, sinful free-will so that the Holy Spirit can take you over and restrict you to the sacred service of Almighty God.
Your conversion is a Biblically-authorized event. As God's servant, I am authorized, by God, to put tremendous and persistent pressure on you - to conform you - and to convert you to Christianity.
Let me make one thing perfectly clear to you from the beginning: God owns your soul. You do not own your soul. Your soul is God's. God created your soul for His pleasure and God can do whatever He wants with it.
Right now, you are to repent! You are to change your freedom-loving mind and your sinful life from serving yourself to serving God - so that you may be saved to serve God for eternity. You are not being saved for you. Your salvation is not for your benefit. You are being saved for God's pleasure and you are to serve God for eternity. God gave you free-will to test whether you love God more than your free-will. God will judge you to Eternal-Torment if you prove to love your free-will - or anything else - more than you love God.
You shall sacrifice your free-will and your life to God - starting right now! You shall submit, yield and subordinate your free-will to God’s sacred will, which is also my "converted" will and you shall humbly convert to become a practicing Christian - which is God's slave and God's Christian soldier.
I am a practicing Christian. I am a slave to God. I represent to you God’s will. My calling is to put extreme and persistent pressure on you - to convert you - to serve my Biblical God with your passion and loyalty throughout your lifetime.
Then, Almighty God shall judge you. If God accepts you based on your works, your repentance, your tithes, your faith and your love, only then may God choose you to serve Him, on His terms, for eternity. If you do not break your stubborn, disobedient, sinful free-will and serve God on His terms, you shall suffer Eternal-Torment. And - rightfully so!
I, as a "saved" Christian, wage war on your "sin". Your "sin" is without the consent of God. If your free-will does change and you do choose to give up your sinful life and serve your God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, I would have righteously broken and converted your sinful free-will. To convert to Christianity, your old, sinful self must die - to be "Born Again" / "Born From Above" and to become "New In The Spirit" - to serve and to love God forever and ever. Praise God!
If you disobey me, in God’s stead, I shall correct you as much as I can and repeatedly threaten Eternal-Torment for your soul. It's because God loves you - and so do I. When I successfully break your free-will and convert you, you are then to wage war on "sin" and break the free-wills of others - so to convert them and to save their souls. You are to be tireless at this and do it until God calls you into His loving arms. You are to sacrifice - who you think you are - and become what Jesus Christ wants you to be.
You Are To Sacrifice Yourself Like Jesus?
Once I break your free-will to God's will and to my converted will; then, you repent. After you repent, I shall then supervise how you are to live. Once you become responsive to me, you will obey me as you would God. You shall pressure others who display free-will as you find them and supervise those who lose their own free-will and who are receptive and obedient to your new crusade against evil.
Gary DeVaney: Hi, Mr. Christian. So, if you are a Christian and if I am not, do you consider yourself superior to me?
Christian: In the eyes of God - YES! Anyone God chooses to serve Him is superior to the heathen. I, through faith, have become spiritually aware that I am actually of "God's elect". As one of the "elect", I am of more value to God than the mere "saved". I was chosen, by God, before the Earth was formed. That was even before the first Earth-Age.
Gary: So, do you have "assumed authority" over me? Are you waging war against me to break my will?
Christian: Yes! Praise God! God has given me authority over Satan. I wage war against Satan - and you are Satan's vessel. Satan dwells within you. I shall drive Satan out of you so that Jesus, God and The Holy Spirit can live through you. You and your sinful nature are to sacrifice yourself and die to the World and be “Born-Again” / "Born From Above" as a Christian.
Gary: I am a free-thinker and a happy man. You don't like either of those facts, do you?
Christian: You can only be happy if your are serving God with all your heart and soul.
Gary: So, your job is to steal my soul and my life from me so that I will serve your God? Do you really expect me to conform to that?
Christian: Expect you to conform? I demand that you conform - or else - you go to Hell!
Gary: Is this authoritative agenda you just described what has caused so much destruction, murder, abuse and war throughout all of history? Isn't war designed to break the wills of others?
Christian: We are Christians! We love peace!
Gary: Yes. You Christians do love peace - on your terms. War results when two or more egos want peace - on their terms. War results after the politicians fail. In war, a Human Being, like a President, Emperor or King assumes authority over other Human Beings. That position of authority religiously sacrifices innocent people. In religion and war, it's all about authority, murder, obedience and control.
The President Of The United Sates of America assumes God's Bible-ordained and documented authority. Then, that new President often actually sacrifices his own innocent people in his quest to kill other nation's innocent people who don't obey his will or support his agenda. The President proclaims those "others" to be evil and to be his enemy. His war-hawk clergy claims that the newly identified enemy is against Almighty God. His government proclaims that his innocent US subjects are either loyal to the USA or that they are traitorously against the USA. The President then wages war and orders the breaking of his new enemy's wills and for all survivors to obey him and his agenda. The Biblical God killed Human Beings to force them to surrender to God and to obey His terms and to serve His "mighty" authority and agendas. The God of the Bible is not a good God and the Bible is not a good model for humanity.
Christian: Blasphemy! Remember sinner! Jesus Christ IS the vengeful God of the Old Testament! Praise Jesus! A Christian, God-fearing Country must break evil soul's stubborn free-wills - to occupy, enslave and, if necessary, torture or destroy them all. If you do not surrender your free-will for God to occupy and use for His pleasure, God will torture and punish you, not only now, but for eternity. My mission is to break your free-will and to convert you so to save your sinful soul from Hell-Fire and Eternal-Damnation. You are to subordinate yourself and yield to God's will. Also, as a good, dutiful Christian, my place of service in Heaven is more assured by your conversion and your sacrifice to God.
Gary: So, you insist that I lose my happy, free-thinking life - as I know it? Instead, I am to sacrifice my free-will and fearfully serve your jealous, wrathful God? Your being a bully - who demands my obedience - helps you get into Heaven? Ok. Let me get this clear. I am to convert to Christianity - pray that I am saved - and that I satisfy your Biblical God's pleasure. God will then judge me. Then, my Heavenly reward is - I can continue to serve for God's, Jesus Christ's and The Holy Spirit's pleasure throughout eternity?
Christian: Yes, yes and yes! Isn’t it wonderful? Praise God! God is authority. You are to obey authority. By the way, you are not happy. True happiness is serving Almighty God.
Gary: Says you. According to the Bible, Jesus suffered 5 or 6 hours on the cross. That is a lot of horrible, unthinkable pain. But, your God sentences us to Eternal-Torment if we fail God's test. Do you view that God's Eternal-Punishment fits the crime?
Christian: Should you fail God's test in the life that God gave to you, God should send you into Eternal-Torment. You should be punished for eternity. God loves you. God is just and fair. Praise God!
Save Me From Christians
Gary: You actually agree with Eternal Punishment? God loves us? God is just and fair? Just how loving, just, fair, legal and moral is the "us against them" Christian mentality?
Christian: Jesus and God are perfect - not unfair. The true Christian mentality is just, legal, fair and perfect.
Gary: And you display the true Christian mentality? For your information, I personally feel that I have been a happy Atheist for the past 30 years. I have a clear conscience that I am a good Human Being. I do not intentionally hurt people and I have never spent a night in jail. I do tend to stand up to bullies. Do you agree that true Christians have an "us against them" mentality?
Christian: That is God's way. God rules! Stand up to God and God will step on you like an ant. God condemns those who don't obey. Sacrifice your false happiness to God! Deep down, we have the Holy Spirit. We know God. You do not. We know what you want and need to be a happy Christian. You don't have the Holy Spirit and you don't know what you want. We do know what you need and we Christians know that we may have to force and intimidate you to become what you need to be.
Gary: Your agenda drains all Human love, hope for life and you attempt to negate every Human reality. I rule only myself - not others. Aren't you demanding for me to live by your values in my life with your authoritative dogma being the center of my values?
Christian: Look. I've been patient with you. I am saved. You are not saved. I believe the right way because it is God's way. You are a sinner and you think wrong. Don't you know that you hurt and abuse us Christians by not obeying us and God. You are not serving God and Christians like a good, obedient Christian should. You must obey all of the Bible's 613 Old Testament commandments no matter how your feel about them - and if you die trying - God will reward you.
Gary: But, don’t God’s 613 commandments include killing disobedient sons, gay men, girls who are not virgins and those who work on the Sabbath? Should I kill them all?
Christian: That sacred obligation is between you and Almighty God. You are to be like Jesus Christ and sacrifice your life to God.
Gary: But, Jesus didn’t kill gay men, disobedient sons and non-virgin girls.
Christian: Praise Jesus! Thank you, Jesus, for suffering and dying on the cross for me! Jesus had His own cross to bear. You have yours.
Gary: If you actually support and promote Human sacrifice, can't you see that you have no moral or legal conscience - that you qualify to be a psychopath? How can you promote these psychotic beliefs with sincerity?
Christian: I demand respect for my beliefs.
Gary: Knowing what your insane, life-stealing beliefs are - that could take some doing. To convert people, you try to make them feel small and guilty. Why?
Christian: Because you are a guilty, lowly sinner.
Gary: Isn't obedience all you really want? Isn't obedience the ultimate test of what you call respect? Aren't you just demanding other's conformity and obedience to your authority?
Do You Know The Controversial Bible C&Vs?
Christian: Not my authority. I am a humble servant of God. God tells us that we must conform, believe and obey to be saved. If you obey my God-fearing beliefs, you will be saved.
Gary: Don't you see that you are trying to kill an individual's soul, life and integrity in favor of their having to live a lie?
Christian: In service, God has no use for individuals. Ye must be born again. God demands His children's heart and soul obedience.
Gary: Sir Christian, what if you are confused and mistaken about your being saved? If you were not saved, would you still agree with God's sentence of Eternal-Torment?
Christian: You are an arrogant, sinful man. You think that you are great! Pride is a sin! Conversion kills one's sinful pride. Prideful, sinful souls cannot be ruled. God does not need any prideful, sinful souls in Heaven. Christians do not deny the conception of greatness. The true greatness of man is in his dedication to do God's work. Conversion destroys sinful pride from within. Conversion kills man’s sense of sinful values.
If it's God's will - it's right. If it is a sinner's will - it is wrong. I am God's slave, God's soldier. God can do with me as He wishes. Who are you or I to tell God?
God's Slave / Soldier
"God's Will Be Done"
Gary: Spoken like a true, sacrificial martyr. You are testifying that your Biblical God has a master-slave mind-set and that God is a slave owner. If so, your God operates as a criminal outside of US law. The State of Mississippi was the last state to ratify the United State's anti-slavery law in 1994. Yet, you want others to become willing slaves, like you, to God. Don't you realize that what you are demanding of others is what causes war?
Christian: God requires war to break the wills of the sinful. It's so simple. God wants sacrifice so that God can know who He can trust to serve Him for eternity. God wants your love and your sacrifice. God demands peace - on His terms! If Holy God’s commandments, statutes, ordinances and laws are not obeyed - on God’s terms - mankind gets no peace.
Gary: So, is religion, by constantly warring with the wills that do not serve the Biblical God on His terms, responsible for why mankind has treated mankind so cruelly throughout history?
Christian: Yes. Mankind is sinful and war is necessary to break the will of evil so that God can have His way. God is God! And God deserves to have everything His way. Conversion does not let anything remain sacred in a man’s soul except God, and, upon conversion, man's soul will not be sacred to himself. You'd best fear God, the creator!
Gary: Mankind evolved and was not created.
Christian: Really! If man evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys still exist?
Gary: If Man was formed from dust, why is there still dust?
Christian: God is powerful and can do anything.
Gary: Really! Can God die?
Christian: Blasphemy. God is going to destroy your arrogant ass and then He will send you into Eternal Torment.
Do you realize that you and your God bully non-believers?
Christian: That's the way it's supposed to be. Non-believers need discipline and you don't tell me how to discipline non-believers.
Gary: You, personally, feel entitled to discipline non-believers?
Christian: I am God's soldier and it is God's way.
Gary: Do you think if Christians knew about this requirement of "waging war on wills of others" - they would still love God?
Christian: Absolutely. Shut up! Stop talking stupid! You are making me mad!
Gary: Mr. Christian, I propose that you and I make a deal. Ok?
Christian: Ok. What's your deal?
Gary: My deal is: You don't talk down to me - and I don't punch you out.
Christian: Listen, Christians are God-fearing. God has feelings and God feels that the intensity of a Christian's love and a believer's fear is important to Him - so, God can know who to choose on judgment day to serve Him for eternity. And, if you take issue with God, we Christians see that as you are attacking us. I personally feel that you are attacking me. If you do not break your free-will to the disciplined will of Almighty God, He will destroy you.
Gary: Sorry, Mr. Christian, but I can not love and I will not serve the insane, domineering, tyrannical, murderous and torturing God that you describe.
Christian. Well, it's simple then. You are going to Hell! I am here to give you a realistic taste, based on the Bible, of what God expects of you and what consequences you will face if you do not break your will and convert. You are to love God with all your heart and soul. Be like us true Christians - or else.
Gary: Do you realize that you are a bully who creates enemies?
Christian: I am a humble servant of my Lord. The Lord Is My Shepherd.
Gary: Powerful, psychopathic men, throughout history, have heinously attacked and brutally murdered nations to break their will. Those, of the destroyed nations who survived, then had to obey and serve their conquers' agendas. It has been a constant recycle of murder, misery and tyranny throughout history. This has been your God-Model.
Christian: God does not change. Praise God!
Gary: In the Old Testament, God’s “chosen people" murdered numerous nations, killing every man, woman and child - so to steal their land.
Christian: It was God's land to give to whom He chose.
Gary: Sometimes, God's "chosen people" could not get along and waged war upon themselves - God's Own "chosen".
Christian: Yes! God corrects His own. Man is sinful and requires correction.
Gary: When "God's Chosen" lost battles or were not totally obedient, angry God turned on them and destroyed them or God arranged for an enemy to put "His Chosen" into captivity and slavery.
Christian: God is in control. God owns this Earth, everything and everyone on it. It is all God’s land to give to whom He chooses. All lives and souls are God's to take when and as He wishes. If you are willfully disobedient, God will turn on you and destroy you too. As with Jesus Christ's wonderful sacrifice, God had it all pre-planned and God was always in control. Yes, God does destroy all those who don’t totally obey Him. You'd best repent for your sins and disobedience. President George W. Bush, who God had appointed over the people of the United States of America, made history by waging war and defeating evil empires. Satan controls those evil people. The more sacrifices that are made, the more God documents in "the book of life" who is suitable to serve God for eternity. God loves the intensity when souls sacrifice themselves to the death in serving God's authority.
Which Souls Would You Sacrifice For God & Country?
Robert Ingersoll wrote: "Those who have loved God most have loved men least."
Gary: Sir Christian, you don't like other Human Beings the way they are. Don't you value Human life?
Christian: There is only one way Human Beings can satisfy God. Human life is temporary. This "Earth Age" is just God's test to see who God wants to be with Him in Heaven.
Gary: So, you don't personally care about your fellow Human Beings?
Christian: Not compared to my love for God! My life now is nothing. My Eternal-Life is all that is important. Human Beings cannot save me. Only God can.
Gary: So, you put your agenda of saving yourself over the free lives of other Human Beings? Didn't Jesus Christ say that there is nothing that a Human Being can do to save himself?
Christian: Yes. But, God does love and God does hate. God loved Jacob and God hated Esau. God is all-powerful, jealous and wrathful. It is best that you fear God and obey!
Gary: It is obvious that - even if the Biblical God does not exist - your belief in God definitely does exist.
Christian: For you to infer that God does not exist is blasphemy!
Gary: By your behavior, I acknowledge that your religion is the way it is. Do you hate those who do not believe in nor worship your God?
Christian: Let's just say that I love them less.
Gary: About 30 years ago, I was a licensed, ordained minister.
Christian: You lie!
Gary: No sir, it's true. Once I learned all the controversial C&Vs about the Biblical God, I chose the Biblical God out of my life. As a result, I have experienced much less personal hatred.
Christian: Almighty God never "called" you to minister for Him.
Gary: Upon reflection, I agree. Only in fantasy and myth has the fictitious Biblical God ever "called" anyone to serve Him.
Christian: Blasphemy!
Gary: Do you view that Heaven is the paradise that Christians project?
Christian: Of course it is. Yes, there was war in Heaven, but God loves you. You just make sure you are fit for God's judgment. Stop thinking about yourself and do everything you can to pleasure God. That is your one and only job. God is not going to be happy with you if you don’t break others wills as I have broken yours. Convert, fear God, repent, get baptized, pay generous tithes, sacrifice, do good works, believe, have faith - and God may select you to serve Him for eternity.
Gary: Sir Christian, I did not give you permission to advise me. It is best that you intellectually understand and emotionally accept that.
Christian: I minister to whom God puts into my hand.
Gary: Right. You, typically, make claims not in evidence. So, would I have "free-will" in Heaven?
Christian: Certainly not! You are tested by how you serve God on Earth. That determines whether or not you make it into Heaven. Because God does not change, what suits God on Earth suits God in Heaven. "God's will is to be done on Earth as it is in Heaven." Are you delusional enough to think that God would give you something in Heaven that He would not allow you during your lifetime on Earth?
Gary: So, what’s in it for the Christian?
Christian: LOL! Well, two things quickly come to my mind. You shall have the privilege to serve God - on His terms - for eternity. And, you will not be suffering Eternal-Torment in Hell. That is a pretty sweet deal, if you are smart enough to notice.
Gary: So, you terrorize gullible believers by threatening the horrors of Hell to scare them into becoming Christians and if they do not obey you and your authoritative dogma, you threaten Eternal Torment?
Christian: How else can God get the sinful to convert and to serve Him?
Gary: Maybe by being a good God-Model instead of being a jealous, vengeful, murderous God-Model?
Christian: God is perfect! You are not to take issue with Almighty God!
Gary: Hell attracts the power-crazy, the superstitious and the ignorant. No logical, reasonable thinker would be converted to a life of sacrifice especially when there is no evidence of a supernatural God. Against my better judgment, if I did agree to your tyrannical God’s terms and to my current Government’s imperialistic war agendas, would I be expected to kill other Human Beings?
Christian: If you are a proper Christian, you will volunteer your life to soldier, to serve, to crusade, to obey and to sacrifice for God and for any President whom God appoints over you. That President is doing God's will. The Bible says so. If Almighty God, or your current President, requires you to do some killing - you are a slave to God and you are a subordinate soldier to your President. You are to sacrifice your will and you are to serve your masters' wills to your death. God will reward you both on Earth and in Heaven - if you loyally have faith, believe in, love and obey God.
Gary: Mr. Christian, is God’s Judeo-Christian-Islamic dogma directly or indirectly responsible for all the wars - and all the suffering and pain - that humanity has experienced within mythical, Biblical documentation and real recorded history?
Christian: God is in charge. God does not change. God wants sacrifices. God wants you to love him, worship and pray to Him. God hears you! Your love is your sacrifice to God. When you love God - it makes His day.
Gary: I am no longer religious. Based on your description of the Christian religion, I feel no love for your Biblical God.
Christian: Christianity is not a religion. It is a reality.
Gary: Yeah, just like Santa Claus.
Christian: Do not blaspheme my religion!
Gary: Let me see if I've got this straight. Do Practicing Christians compete to steal and convert the free-will of other Human Beings? Are all other Human Beings to worshipfully surrender their free-will and their life so to serve your jealous and vengeful God just because you are programed to demand it? It appears that most converted Christians do not like other Human Beings the way they are - the way God supposedly created them. In fact, Practicing Christians preach that all Human Beings are born in sin and that all are inherently evil. Because practicing Christians can not accept other Human Beings the way they are, they want to destroy who another unique Human Being was genetically born to become. It’s all “Be like me – or else” isn’t it?
