Jesus’ Family Values - The God Murders

Jesus Family Values

Gary DeVaney

“INTELLIGENCE IS CATEGORICAL”

“INSANITY IS CONTAGIOUS”

Did the Bible ever emphasize Jesus loving His brothers or sisters; His father, or mother; any woman for that matter? Many times the Bible did say there was a disciple, whom Jesus loved. Can you explain what that was about?

In your value system, is Jesus Christ and God “right and good” about what is “right and good” for human beings?

Matthew 5:39 Jesus said: Resist not evil…

Would you trust someone - maybe a baby-sitter, who would not resist evil? Wouldn’t you personally prefer someone close to you and your family to resist evil as much as he or she could? Is not resisting evil right and good for human beings?

Matthew 10:35-36 Jesus said: I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother…and one’s enemies will be those of his household.

What? How is Jesus’ C&V model designed to be better for human beings? Isn’t Jesus supposed to be our loving, righteous, wholesome family model? My sensitivities can not support Jesus if this is His attitude.

Matthew 10:37 Jesus said: Whoever loves his father, mother, son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

Haven’t egocentric, possessive and jealous prisoners on death-row murdered in the name of what they perceived to be love? Where could these attitudes have originated? I think Jesus’ attitude is wrong for humanity.

Father, Mother, Son & Daughter

Luke 12:49-54 Jesus said: I have come to set the Earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing. How great is My anguish until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to establish peace on the Earth? No, rather division; father against son, mother against daughter + + +. Catholic

Was Jesus the love-model for the Crusades, the Inquisition, Hitler, George W. Bush and some of the other major tyrants throughout history? If Satan said these things, we could validate any anger towards him. Didn’t Jesus say them? Also, is one who wishes really in control? Jesus does not get my vote

Jesus Came To Set The Earth On Fire?

Mark 13:12 Jesus said: Brother will hand over brother to death, and the father his child; children will raise up against their parents and put them to death.

If Jesus wants this - I am not on His side.

Children Shall Rise Against Parents?

Luke 14:26 Jesus said: If anyone comes to Me without hating his father, mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters and even his own life, he can not be My disciple.

Sniff… I am starting to feel really sad.

It is evident that believers have gone from deception to denial and now they are in delusion to worship, promote, support and finance such a character as Jesus Christ.

Do some religions have an ill effect on mental-health?

Luke 21:16-17 Jesus said: You will be handed over by parents, brothers, relatives and friends and they will put some of you to death.

God’s “Death Angel”?

Matthew 23:9 Jesus said: Call no one on Earth your father…

Why are Catholic priests called “father”? Doesn’t that defy what Jesus said in Mathew 23:9?

Matthew 11:19 & Luke 7:34 The Son of Man (Jesus Christ) came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard…

Isaiah 5:22-23 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine…

John 2:1-11 Jesus provided wine and promoted the drinking of wine when He turned water into wine.

Proverbs 23:21 for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags.

How do these Bible C&Vs affect Jesus Christ’s status and reputation when the Bible documents that Jesus promoted the drinking of wine and was accused of being “a drunkard and a glutton”?

John 2:3-4 When the wine ran short, the mother of Jesus said to Him: They have no wine. Jesus said to His mother: Woman, how does your concern affect Me? Catholic

Jesus Said: Woman, How Does Your Concern Affect Me - To His Mother?

Jesus’ arrogance loses me.

Catholic BN: A Hebrew expression of hostility - a denial of common interest.

Behold! This Catholic Bible Note actually criticized Jesus’ comment.

Matthew 12:46-49 Someone told Jesus: Your mother and brothers are outside asking to speak to You. Jesus replied: Who is My mother? Who are My brothers?

Jesus Asked: Who is My Mother?

Jesus doesn’t acknowledge His family. Jesus rejects them. What a sad example of Jesus’ family values. In Luke 2:50 Jesus, age 12, disappeared from His parents for 3 days with no apology.

Matthew 15:4 Jesus said: Honor thy father and thy mother.

Although nice, this documented statement does contradict some of Jesus’ other family values. Jesus tells you here: Do as I say - not as I do.

Mark 16:17-18 Jesus said: These signs will accompany those who believe in My name: They will pick up serpents with their hands and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. Catholic

Jesus Said: They Will Pick Up Serpents?

Many “faithful” Christians have died due to this specific Bible C&V. Would you honestly want your impressionable, trusting kids to read and believe this C&V and then to prove their faith by actually picking up serpents with their hands or drinking any deadly thing?

Please! Please! Please! Do not do the snake and poison thing at home or anywhere else! Do you honestly support and promote every C&V in the Bible? How can you promote and support Jesus Christ if He tells you to “in His name” do these things?

Luke 1:33 Jesus will rule over the house of Jacob (The Jews?) forever.

C. Dennis McKinsey: When did Jesus ever rule over the house of Jacob, the Jews?

Pat Condell: “The Jesus Swindle”:

http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/u/7/D4shqQJDdCA

I Corinthians 11:3 The head of every man is Christ, the husband is the head of his wife.

Because Jesus will rule over the Jews, does that mean - the head of every Jewish man is Christ?

I Corinthians 11:8-9 Man did not come from woman, but woman from man; nor was man created for woman, but woman for man.

Ladies, did you know that this model of inequality is Biblical?

Woman Was Created For Man?

Jesus said, “Why callest thou me good, there is none good but one, that is God.” This comment not only proves Jesus is not God or God’s equivalent, proven by his own words no less, but proves he is not perfect, again by his own words. Therefore Jesus could not be God because God by definition is perfect. Dennis McKinsey

Matthew 11:12-14 Jesus said: John the Baptist is Elijah Catholic / Elias KJV

John 1:21 John the Baptist said he was not Elijah Catholic / Elias KJV.

John the Baptist says one thing - Jesus claims the opposite.

Matthew 19:12 Jesus said: Some are incapable of marriage because they are born so.

Why? Is it because they are gay? Jesus never married. There was a disciple in John 21:20 whom Jesus loved. Hummm…

Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord.

Robert Ingersoll: If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would strictly follow the teachings of the New, he would be insane.

Robert Ingersoll

Please keep in mind, I did not write the Bible. I just read it, took notes and shared them. Again, the selected passages are paraphrased. GWD

Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in the son of man in whom there is no help.

Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a maggot and the son of man, which is a worm?

Why is Jesus Christ called “The Son of Man” which the book of Job documents is a worm?

If Jesus Christ is not the son of Joseph, a man, why is Jesus called the “Son of Man”?

John 11:25-26 Jesus said: I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in Me, even if he dies, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?

Do You Believe Jesus?

Wow! Jesus has doubt and actually asks you if you believe His words. My answer is “no, I don’t believe Jesus”. Upon reflection, I view that my values are better and less harmful to humanity than Jesus Christ’s.

Why can’t human egos handle the idea of expiration, death, non-existence? Doesn’t almost every Christian and Muslim ego argue for and insist on everlasting life? Isn’t it mostly due to the fear of “Eternal Torment” if you don’t obey what they demand of you?

Death?

Matthew 11:28 Jesus said: For I am meek and humble of heart; My yoke is easy and My burden light.

Jesus considers His “yoke” to be easy - but - if you fail to fulfill Jesus’ burden, you will sizzle in Hell for eternity. Isn’t it interesting that Jesus would consider that to be a “light” burden?

Light Burden?

John 11:53-54 They planned to kill Him. Jesus no longer walked about in public among the Jews.

Did Jesus fear and worry about His life? Or, had Jesus, in essence, pre-planned His assisted suicide?

Luke 12:7 Jesus said: Even the hairs on your head have been counted (by God.)

Yet, didn’t this same God order a census by Moses and David to get a count of soldiers?

John 12:8 Jesus said: You always have the poor with you, but you do not always have Me.

Luke 12:14 Jesus said: Friend, who appointed Me as your judge and arbitrator? Catholic

So, is Jesus inferring here that He is not our judge? What does this mean?

Symptomatically, when debating the Bible, some can not or will not stay on topic, chapter and verse. Some tend to explain things with unrelated, irrelevant, and feel-good idealism or they will preach, by intimidation, to soul-save. Some, when they are at a complete loss, tend to fall back on faith, which often comes across to others as non-sense. For the finale, their departing shot usually consists of a voodoo-type curse or warning. Insults and curses are sometimes used by those with the weaker debating skills.

Voodoo?

John 12:24-26 Jesus said these things:

1. If a grain of wheat dies, it produces much fruit.

When a seed or a sperm dies, it does not produce its potential fruit. McKinsey

2. Whoever loves his life loses it. Apparently, self-esteem, is not in the salvation equation.

Low Self-Esteem?

3. Whoever hates his life will preserve it for eternal life.

If you hate your life, would you want something you hated preserved for eternity

4. God will honor whoever serves Me.

Has any tyrant ever used this sacred phrase?

Matthew 12:30 Jesus said: Whoever is not with Me is against Me.

Hummm… Doesn’t this sound like George W. Bush?

Matthew 12:31-32 Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, even speaking against “The Son of Man (Jesus Christ) will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. (Catholic)

Doesn’t Jesus state here that forgiveness is conditional?

John 12:31-32 Jesus said: The ruler of this world will be driven out. When I am lifted up from the Earth, I will draw everyone to Myself.

How could this be accurate? Hasn’t Jesus already been “lifted up” and everyone is not “up” there. Normally, doesn’t when mean “at the time”?

Luke 12:33 Jesus said: Sell what you have and give alms… KJV

Abraham Pays Tithes To Melchizedeck

Why have many people, who live on the streets of the world’s major cities, given away everything and become wards of the state? Could Jesus have possibly influenced them?

John 12:35-37 Jesus said: The light will be among you only a little while. Whoever walks in the dark does not know where he is going. After Jesus talked, He hid from them. They did not believe Him.

Did Jesus Fear for His Body?

Jesus’ “Close” Jewish Family?

Jesus Christ was born into a Jewish family. Right? Where was there any traditional Jewish closeness and caring by Jesus’ grandparents for Jesus - especially the grandmothers? Wasn’t their caring and attention strangely absent concerning Jesus’ life? Jesus’ family certainly was not a close and supporting family model, by Jewish standards, was it? Did they privately disown Mary for being pregnant out of wedlock? Jesus never did anything notable that seemed to particularly care for His family in your Bible. Did Jesus?

Jesus had no documented connection with His cousin, John-The-Baptist or his family, for 30 years, did Jesus? They acted like strangers when John baptized Jesus. Didn’t they?

Jesus’ participation seemed to stop with His “step- father”, Joseph, at the age of 12. Didn’t it?

Jesus’ siblings thought that Jesus was nuts after some years of experience. Didn’t they?

Are you aware of any on-topic views, perspectives, or righteous indignation?

Questions some may ask themselves:

1. Do I totally believe all that the Bible says about Jesus?

2. Have I verified any of these chapters and verses in my Bible?

3. Is there any reason for me to feel differently now about the Bible than I did before?

4. Are my feelings based on fear and faith or facts and knowledge?

5. Do I truly know right from wrong, good from bad regardless of the players?

6. Could worship be a concept of slave-mentality?

7. Do some, who promote worship, also harbor fantasies of being worshipped?

8. Do some fear if these facts were known, their faith would fall apart.

Personally, I don’t care to have faith and to believe. I prefer to know. GWD

This next passage is probably the biggest reason why some stay away from and fear taking notes on the Bible:

Revelation: 22:18-19 I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share of the tree of life.

This was probably taken from Deuteronomy 4:2. Do you think this is like a voodoo warning?

John 12:47-48 Jesus said: If anyone hears My words and does not observe them, I do not condemn him, for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world.

Let’s review Luke 12:49 & 51:

Luke 12:49 Jesus said: I have come to set the Earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing.

Earth On Fire?

Confusion is many things, one is a time of growing; another, a time of learning.

Luke 12:51 Jesus said: Do you think I have come to establish peace on The Earth? No, I tell you, but rather division.

Revelation 3:11 Jesus said: Behold, I come quickly. KJV

After 2,000 years? What does Webster’s say quickly means.

When questioned about the Bible, some prove to know much about nothing.

John 13:15-18 Jesus said: I have given you a model to follow (Noted). No slave is greater than his master. I’m not speaking to all of you. I know those whom I have chosen.

Does Jesus model a concept of slavery? Some preachers state they are slaves of Christ.

Matthew 13:49-50 Jesus said: The Angels will separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into a fiery furnace where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.

God’s Angels Toss Us Into Hell?

Haven’t terrorists used God as an excuse for their heinous crimes? Have victors thanked God after killing their enemy? When someone orders us to “have faith” are we expected to ignore any emotional response and just shut-up concerning any questions or criticism?

Luke 14:33 Jesus said: Everyone who does not renounce all his possessions (Catholic) / forsake all that he has (KJV) cannot be My disciple.

Mark 2:15 While Jesus was at meal in His house… KJV

What? His means possession! Jesus owned a house? Didn’t Jesus tell the rich man to sell all he owned and give to the poor?

Pat Robertson made $470 million last year. Do as I say - not as I do? Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y?

Matt 15:2 Jesus was asked: Why do Your disciples break tradition with the elders? They do not wash their hands when they eat a meal.

Matthew 15:17-20 Jesus explained: Do you not realize that everything that enters the mouth passes through the stomach and is expelled into the latrine. Jesus said: To eat with unwashed hands does not defile.

Jesus Promoted Unwashed Hands?

Maybe Jesus is talking about unwashed “spiritual” hands. If your child refused to wash his hands and used this passage to validate his disobedience, being a believer, what would you do? Would you go so far as to teach this health and hygiene lesson to your children, spiritually or otherwise?

Matthew 15:22-28 A Canaanite woman asked Jesus to heal her daughter. Jesus ignored her. His disciples asked Jesus to send her away. Jesus replied that He was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel (The Jews?) Jesus then said: It is not right to take the food of the children and throw it to the dogs. She appealed to Jesus: Please Lord, even the dogs eat the scraps that fall from their master’s table. Jesus healed her daughter.

Jesus Healed Her Daughter

What? Did Jesus, in Matthew 15:26-27, refer to this woman and her poor, sick daughter as “dogs”? Jesus rejected the woman because she wasn’t an Israelite / Hebrew / Jewish. Then, after the woman groveled like a dog, Jesus healed her daughter. Does this documented model of Jesus require all, or at least some of us, to beg Him to save us like groveling, begging dogs?

What defines the characteristics of a name-calling racist?

Weren’t Jesus’ initial comments to her those of a stubborn, name-calling racist? How did Jesus respond to the woman before she outright begged Him? Are there self-admitted Christians who are stubborn, name-calling racists? Does this Jesus model inspire Christian racism? I’ll bet that today if Don Imus or any on-camera politician said that to a poor woman and her sick daughter, they would be publicly condemned to be a name-calling racists.

Luke 16:15 Jesus said: What is of human-esteem is an abomination in the sight of God.

What would mental-health experts say about Jesus’ views of Human self-esteem?

Mark 16:18 Jesus said: If you handle deadly serpents and drink deadly poison, you won’t be harmed.

Some controversial Bible models deserve a little redundancy.

In 1982, at the beginning of this research, I asked myself: What should I do when I read something controversial, especially about something I admit I know little about? Often the more I read and understood concerning these chapters and verses, the angrier I got. I can’t blame others for getting angry. Although I stuck with it, I often felt sad that the Bible and its God was the way it was.

Matthew 16:22-23 Then Peter took Jesus aside and began to rebuke Him. Jesus turned and said to Peter: Get behind Me Satan! You are an obstacle to Me.

Webster’s: To rebuke: To address in sharp and severe disapproval; to reprimand.

Peter did all this to Jesus? Didn’t Peter become the cornerstone of The Catholic Church?

Matthew 16:28 Jesus said: There are some standing here who will not taste death until they see The Son of Man coming in His Own kingdom.

Are the people Jesus addressed still alive today? Please explain?

Time-Travel

Perspective: Even Jesus Christ (MAN’S SAVIOR) could NOT / can NOT time-travel.

Evidence? If Jesus Christ (MAN’S SAVIOR) could time-travel, then, Jesus would have traveled back in time to prevent Adam & Eve from committing their “Original Sin”.

If Jesus (MAN’S SAVIOR) could time-travel and prevent Adam & Eve’s “ORIGINAL SIN”, but, Jesus WOULD NOT / WILL NOT, then, the Biblical God’s plan WAS for Adam & Eve to commit their “ORIGINAL SIN”.

Just think of all the misery, pain and death the Biblical God’s insane plan created. God’s plan included the torture and the crucifixion of His only begotten Son, Jesus. God’s plan includes “Eternal-Torment” for you, me and all of Humanity if we do not totally please and obey Him. If we do please and obey the Biblical God, He will accept us to grovel and serve Him and Jesus 24 / 7 for eternity.

Matthew 7:21 Jesus said: Not everyone who says Lord to Me will enter Heaven but only the one who does the will of God. Many will say to Me on that day: Lord, did we not prophesy and do good deeds in Your name? I will declare to them: I never knew you. Depart from Me you evildoers.

Jesus’ forgiveness seems limited. Is salvation a doing thing and not a faith thing? Or, is having faith, doing?

John 7:16 Jesus said: My teaching is not My Own, but God’s. Whoever chooses to do God’s will shall know whether My teaching is from God or whether I speak on My Own.

Didn’t Moses also say he wasn’t responsible as he was only carrying out God’s orders? Isn’t Jesus, like Moses, making a statement that separates Himself from being God?

Then, behold:

John 10:30 Jesus said: I and My Father are One.

John 14:9 Jesus said: He who has seen Me has seen The Father.

John 14:29 Jesus said: The ruler of this world is coming. He has no power over Me.

Is Jesus referring to Satan or to God as the ruler of this world? If Satan is coming, where has Satan been? Jesus had a conversation with Satan; so, he must have already been on Earth - when he’s not hanging out at God’s house (Job 1:6 & 2:1). If Satan is coming and Jesus is going, how does Satan have no power over Jesus? Am I the only one confused?

John 20:17 Jesus said to Mary Magdalene: Stop holding on to Me for I have not yet ascended to God. I am going to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.

How does this depict Jesus as being the same as, nor equal to, God? It seems that Jesus wasn’t much into a woman holding Him before or after He was dead.

I Corinthians 12:3 No one speaking by God says Jesus is cursed. No one can say Jesus is Lord except by The Holy Spirit.

Some assume to know the mind of God. It is their minds that often fascinate me. GWD

I Peter 3:22 Jesus Christ, who has gone to Heaven and is at the right hand of God.

Jesus can not be God because one can not sit to the right hand of oneself. Dennis McKinsey

Right Hand Of God?

Revelation 2:7 Jesus said: To him who conquers, I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

Revelation 2:17 Jesus said: To him who conquers, I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, with a new name written on the stone which no one knows except him who receives it.

Revelation 3:5 Jesus said: He who conquers shall be clad in white garments. I will not blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.

Revelation 3:12 Jesus said: He who conquers, I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalemwhich comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.

Revelation 3:21 Jesus said: He who conquers, I will grant to sit with me on my throne, as I myself conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Dictionary: “Conquer”

1. To acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.

2. To overcome by force; subdue: to conquer an enemy.

3. To gain, win, or obtain by effort, personal appeal, conquer the hearts of his audience.

4. To gain a victory over; surmount; master; overcome: to conquer disease and poverty; to conquer one’s fear.

In Revelation chapters 2&3 Jesus rewards those who conquer by force and by war. To conquer hearts rewards believers who wage war on our free-wills.

Can you name 12 Human Beings who, in their own way, publically stand up to “Conquer-agenda Christians”?

God’s Family Values

The Biblical God proved to be the most miserable, insane, jealous and murderous Character - documented by Bible C&V - in the Old Testament.

Job came in a miserable second - due to this tyrannical, deceitful God.

The Biblical God arranged for Jesus Christ to have the most miserable death in the New Testament. That’s because He was God’s son. This best depicts: God’s Family Values.

Who here really wants to be Godlike? Be honest now.

Some, like defense attorneys, are not in search of the facts. They just want to win for their client. They tend to cover-up, deny facts and argue for control rather than to debate for justice.

Faith: Heb 11:1 Faith is the substance / realization of what is hoped for and evidence of things not seen.

To qualify, faith has to be nonsense. To have faith is to do or allow something to take place although it does not make sense; to blindly follow and obey without the benefit of logic, reason or rationale. If something makes sense, one does not need faith.

Faith is the vehicle of mindless automatons whose mission is to convert or steal the wills of others so that they too may become mindless automatons with no will of their own. They call it soul-saving. To have faith is to be out of the decision-making business; your decisions are made for you. Faith is acceptance, without agreement or understanding.

Faith is a slave-mentality; the very glue of the herd-mentality. Religious people of faith, are often referred to as sheep.

To have faith is to act on orders you don’t know to be legal or valid. Faith is to gamble on instincts or feelings when success seems improbable. Prisons are full of believers who had faith. Their faith over-rode their self-responsibility and common sense. Their faith directly caused their feelings to let them down. Faith is that which cannot be proven, regardless, is supposed to be believed. To have faith in an adversary is to give up power and control to that adversary. Addicts do it all the time.

What Is Your Feeling?

Salvation insanity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V29LDxK1sM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Jesus - The Revenge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VFx7WFVP1FI

Battered Christian Syndrome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXgnpuKoWhU

http://blog.atheistsurvivalguide.org/ten-reasons-christianity-makes-sense-2/

Who would demand to see “The God Murders” website?

http://thegodmurders.com/index.html

See Gary DeVaney’s YouTube videos:

“The Shocking God”