Ezekiel 27-28
By
Pastor Arnold Murray
Critiqued / Challenged
By
Gary DeVaney
“INTELLIGENCE IS CATEGORICAL”
“INSANITY IS CONTAGIOUS”
Pastor Arnold Murray preached: Ezekiel, in Hebrew, means: “God strengthens you”. That’s what Ezekiel will do for you if you absorb and practice it. It will strengthen you and make a different person out of you.
Gary: Christianity seems to rarely like you or to want you the way you are. The Christian demand is always: Be like me - or else!
Murray claims: The “King of Tyre” in Ezekiel was “Satan”.
King Hiram Of Tyre
G: Murray’s claim - which the Bible does validate - is the biggest source of confusion for the Wanna-Be believer. One must believe that the King of Tyre was Satan for Satan to turn to ashes from within and expire on “Judgment Day” after the “Millennium”. Then, Murray does a surprise turn and claims that Satan’s acting script / role goes into the Lake of Fire and that Satan will return. That just confirms for me that the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion is a sham.
Murray: The “King of Babylon”, in the future, will be Satan himself.
Murray: God sentenced Satan to death. Satan is called “The Son of Perdition” in the Greek tongue. Satan is the only named entity who has been judged and sentenced to death / perish. Satan is proud. God allows Satan to deceive people to check out if God’s children read his “letter” (the Bible) or not. God warns them - the false Christ comes first. Satan’s main story will be: “I have returned to fly you out of here”. Will you be deceived? Have you read the book? It makes it clear, a child can understand it.
G: Let’s see, Pastor Murray, if what you claim here, by your own admission, turns out to be a sham.
Ezekiel 27:33. You became rich with merchandise - that will all fall.
Murray: A natural disaster (storm) devastated the island and riches lost. You are poor - nobody to buy your stuff anymore. Ecclesiastes 1 says: “There is nothing new under the sun” as it is written. What has been shall be again. God does not change.
Murray: Satan, like Christ, also claims to be a rock for you to stand on. Are you going to do it or do you recognize Satan for what he is?
Murray: After Satan’s fall, he was called the prince.
Murray: Isaiah 14 speaks of Lucifer the bright and morning star being cast down into the pit.
Ezekiel 28:1 God said to Ezekiel: Son of man say to “The Prince of Tyrus…
G: God called Ezekiel “Son of man”? That’s the same term Jesus Christ is called in the New Testament.
Murray: God said to Satan: Because, you are so proud of yourself, you have said: “I am God”. “I sit in the seat of God.” Yet, you are a man.
G: If this is Satan who God is talking to and God says “you are a man”; how can that be as, in the Bible, Satan was never born of a woman?
II Thessalonians 2:4-5 Paul wrote: The “Son of Perdition”, he that has already been sentenced to perish, sits in the Holy place, Jerusalem, claiming to be God.
Murray: People not taught - are not going to believe that. God and His Son will sit on the throne of God until all the enemies of God are made His foot-stools. God’s children will make the enemies God’s foot-stools by aid of the Holy Spirit. You’ve only got one “Son of Perdition”. Nutty preachers will tell you that it was Judas, who betrayed Christ. Judas repented. Don’t listen to nonsense. Listen to your Father (God). Don’t be deceived in these end-times.
Murray: Christ will not return to us until after Satan sits in (God’s) mercy seat in Jerusalem claiming to be God. It’s simple. A child can understand that. A bunch would tell you that back in Ezekiel 13 “I’m going to teach you to fly to save your soul and God says, “I’m against that”. God doesn’t like that. Why? God wants servants to serve and obey Him.
G: Every dictator / tyrant wants your service and obedience. Arnold Murray is no exception.
Murray: Satan was smart. Satan earned the right to be the Cherubim that protected God’s throne. You can’t take that away from Satan. God is always fair and God would not give Satan that position for nothing.
G: So, Murray claims that know-it-all God was not in error to promote Satan? Was God wrong to promote Satan then - or is God wrong to condemn Satan later?
Ezekiel 28:4-5 God said to Satan: With your wisdom and understanding, you got rich. You got proud because of your riches.
Murray: Pride made Satan feel he could overcome God. That’s what pride within yourself will do.
G: Really, so far Michael Jordan’s and Tiger Wood’s “pride’ has well-served them - and the world.
Ezekiel 28:6 God said to Satan: Because you want to play God and to be God…
Murray: Satan thinks he is sharp enough to defeat God - that he can defeat and get Christians to take God out of their Pledge of Allegiance to get Atheists to twist the minds - just remove God. Why do you think we are the super-power of super-powers? It’s because we have God. Just check your currency and coins - “in God we trust”. Do not try to remove God from our vocabulary or discount the Bible - or disaster.
Ezekiel 28:7 God said to Satan: I will send you enemies. They will bring you down to the pit and you will die.
The Pit
G: This claims that Satan will die / expire - no “Eternal Torment”.
Murray: Even you will have an end. The word of God cuts both ways. He will be sentenced to die.
G: What if Satan is just a fictitious play-actor that a fictional, man-made God uses to control other human beings? Blasphemy - you say? Let’s see how Pastor Arnold’s preaching surprisingly plays out on this segment of his TV program.
Ezekiel 28:9 Will you say before who will slay you - I am God - because it is God that will bring you to the end? You will be a man and not a god in the hand that slays you. You shall die by the hand of strangers said God.
G: Satan will die by the hand of strangers? This is totally confusing if God turns Satan into ashes from within - as later documented.
Murray: Satan goes into the pit at the beginning of the millennium so the world can be taught without Satan’s spiritual interference.
G: Murray indicates that God censors the Satan during the millennium fulfill His teaching agenda. What is teaching during the millennium about? What you did during your life is supposed to determining if you get saved or go to Hell - isn’t it? Objectively, this also serves as a God-model that teaches censorship against free-speech / free-press.
The Biblical God, by Bible C&V documentation, taught humanity that God was murderous when God wasn’t pleased. God teaches that God will send you to Hell if you do not please Him. The Biblical God, Arnold Murray, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, Pat Robertson - all spending eternity together? I luv the prospects - the competitive fire-works that combination of dictatorial egos promises! Although I’ll opt to go to Hell, I’ll personally have my money on Murray bitch-slapping all other clergy.
Murray: The millennium is The Lord’s Day. How long is The Lord’s Day?
II Peter 3:7-8 A day of the Lord is 1,000 years with man.
Murray: 1,000 years is a millennium. In the first Earth age before Satan fell, God described “The King of Tyrus” (Satan) - you were full of wisdom and perfect beauty. I made you the full pattern - beautiful to look upon. Why? Satan earned it. Satan had to be very good at one time to be elevated to the position. Remember, this is Satan now in the first Earth age before his fall.
Ezekiel 28:13 God said: (Satan) You have been in Eden (The Garden of Eden) - you were created.
Murray: Satan was created by God - not born of woman. Satan deceived Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. So it is - and you can not deny who we are talking about. Satan was wiser than Daniel to deceive the world. This leaves no doubt as to who we are talking about. Satan, from the first Earth age, to what he did in the Garden of Eden in this Earth age. What was Satan’s position there? It is documented that Satan was created and not born. Satan is not a natural entity. Satan is supernatural Cherubim. Satan was supposed to protect the mercy seat but instead of protecting Satan wanted it and he took it. God made Moses build the Arc, the mercy seat and 2 Cherubim’s facing each other to guard it. Satan did not protect and work with God - but, against God. Pride and self righteousness.
Beware of people that are self righteous - that’s the beginning of pride coming in to disillusion, to deceive. What Satan really wanted to be - rather than a Cherubim - was the messiah. That why Satan is called the Anti-Christ - instead of Christ.
G: This sums up Murray’s claiming that Satan was the king of Tyre. It confirms that Satan was not an Angel - but a Cherubim. Murray stated here that 2 Cherubim faced each other. At other times, the Murray’s have said that they believed the other Cherubim was Michael - but Michael is claimed to be an Arch-Angel. So, how can that be?
Ezekiel 28:15 God said: You (Satan) were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created until iniquity was found in you.
Satan In His Original Glory
Murray: Satan stopped loving God. Satan began loving himself more than he loved God. What can you do in a case like that? God knows what to do. You do that and God turns His back on you. Instead of God’s blessings, you will receive what you’ve got coming to you - and God always makes sure that you get everything you’ve got coming to you - even sometimes before Judgment Day.
G: Murray commands that you love God or suffer God’s punishment. What could better define a tyrant?
Ezekiel 28:16 By the quantity of your merchandise, they have turned the midst of you with violence - and you have sinned. I will destroy you.
Murray: The very alter of the fire of God. What is God? God is a consuming fire. That same fire that God is - warms your heart by the touch of the Holy Spirit. But, that same consuming fire burns the sinner. And, God will ultimately turn into “The Lake of Fire” for God is a consuming fire.
Read it:
Hebrews 12:28-29 …28 whereby we may serve God with reverence and Godly fear 29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Ezekiel 28:17 God said to Satan: Your heart (desire) has risen because of your beauty. Your brightness has corrupted your reason. I will cast you to the ground before kings.
Murray: Where is Satan now?
Revelation 12:6-7 Michael (the Arch-Angel) is holding Satan in Heaven in chains until God casts him to Earth as the spurious messiah.
Murray: That’s the 6th trump. Jesus Christ does not return until the 7th trump. Satan comes claiming to be God again sitting in Jerusalem. It will be the headlines of the world. Are you ready for it? You’ve been warned by almighty God. You can’t be warned by anyone greater. God has already written the plan. In Satan’s beauty and splendor, do you know who Satan looks very much like? Jesus Christ. And, guess who Satan will claim to be? Jesus Christ, God’s savior, only Satan is a fake, a liar. Paul warned you of this in:
II Thessalonians 2:3-5 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5Remember that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
Murray: Do you know why we call Satan “The Son of Perdition”? The next C&V will tell you:
Ezekiel 28:18 You have defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities, (sins) by the iniquity of your traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of you. It shall devour you, and I (God) will bring you (Satan) to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold you.
Murray: This is why Satan is called “The Son of Perdition”. Because Satan has already been judged by God to be turned into ashes from within. That means that Satan is to be blotted out in “The Lake Of Fire” - which is called the second death - which is the death of the soul - and, so it shall be. The Greek word and Satan’s name for “Perdition” is the same. Satan will have 5 months when God casts him to the Earth. God tells Satan that he can not touch those who have the seal of God in their forehead – that is the Bible’s truth in their mind. They can not be deceived / fooled. Otherwise most of the world, who are Biblically illiterate, don’t know and are easy to be had.
G: So, although God wrote this letter (the Bible) and tells His plan and the name of Satan and what Satan is to do, the Biblically ignorant will be deceived.
Murray: Psalm 37:20 spells it out:
Psalm 37:20 20But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Murray: God says: I’m going to roast Satan and Satan is going to be like the fat that drops off the lamb into the fire. Poof, it goes up into smoke forever and ever. But, I thought he was supposed to burn forever! How long is forever? When he goes to smoke - that is forever and ever. Fini, that’s it, turned to ashes from within. Fini! It is the demise of Satan who is turned to ashes from within. Again, a lot of people say: Well, I want him to burn in Hell and I want to be there forever and I wanted to see old uncle Luke right out there in the middle of it begging for his life and screaming for mercy so I can sit back at the throne of God and enjoy Heaven. Really! You want to enjoy a Heaven with people screaming, and yelling and burning? In the first place, they are not in physical, flesh bodies and the type of fire you are thinking about has no effect on the spiritual body. But, the consuming fire that God is has a great effect.
God loves you. You know that the fake Christ is coming first. You know that Satan will be turned to ashes from within. Do you want to join him? I don’t think so. I certainly don’t want to be turned to ashes from within. I want an eternal live with God with everything placed back in the perfect order that it will be as Revelation 21 stipulates:
Revelation 21 (edited) 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. 3Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. 6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give the thirsty the fountain of the water of life freely. 7He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it. 25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26And they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations into it. 27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defiles, neither whatsoever worked abomination, or make a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
The New Heaven and Earth
G: Phew! Nice try, Pastor Arnold Murray! But, after listening to all your threatening preaching for close to 20 years, I view that you have preferred “Eternal Torment” to frighten followers, tithers and believers. But, in Ezekiel, even you have to yield to milder Bible, C&V, documentation. It looks like in Ezekiel’s version, Eternal Torment does not exist. “Turning to ashes from within” and becoming smoke that evaporates forever is what is accurately described. That, in no way qualifies as torment. Becoming spiritual smoke. like body cremation, is being about as non-existent as can be. Ezekiel’s version is not popular by most vindictive, vengeful and authoritative Judeo - Christian - Islamic believers and promoters. Pastor Arnold Murray, do you lean towards Ezekiel’s version of expiration / non-existence / up in smoke - or - Revelation’s version of Eternal pain / torment? I view that both John and Ezekiel to be fiction writers and those Religious authoritarians - who would promote and blackmail the lives of others for power and profit - to be criminally insane. I personally view that it is all a fear-based sham to get the gullible to obey human hierarchy and authority.
The End of Satan
The End of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic Religions?
Murray: God took Satan back to the first Earth age when Satan fell from favor of God by becoming prideful and wanting to be God to take over the Messiah ship. It did not work. God caught Satan. God sentenced Satan to death.
Ezekiel 28:19 All the people who know you shall be astonished at you: you shall be a terror, and never shall you be any more.
G: Warning! What’s coming next is the most critical I can be about God / Satan and Pastor Arnold Murray. Most of these words are directly quoted from Arnold Murray’s mouth:
Murray: Satan will never be allowed to practice that role again.
G: What? Satan practices a scripted role? Is Satan’s role God-scripted?
Murray: That role of spurious messiah goes into The Lake of Fire along with the one World political system at the closing verses of Revelation 19. Satan will appear again - but, not in that role. That role is destroyed. That role is done away with.
G: What? Pastor Arnold Murray - what the Hell are you saying? Satan will NOT perish after all?!? After the “Lake of Fire”, Satan will appear again? Then, with all the expiration threats you have laid on us, we who all go into the lake of fire will, like Satan, appear again? Personally, I prefer expiration / non-existence. First you said that Satan will no loner exist - now, you claim Satan will re-appear. Your integrity and teaching skills are on the line here. Be clear and absolute for once as to what God is - what Satan is - what Hell is - and to the fate of human beings.
Murray: In studying God’s word, you must realize that Satan is a play actor – and Satan plays many roles. That’s what the word “hypocrite” in the Greek means – a play actor – a pretender. Ok? And, he does like to pretend.
G: What?!?! So, the Christian Hell-Fire religion is a sham / hoax / farce / fake / con? Religion is a play-acting agenda designed to steal the lives of gullible human beings in favor of a miserable, massive life-stealing, dictatorial doctrine? You have just exposed the greatest hoax / fraud in the history of humanity. You have admitted to and exposed the biggest lie. You sir, have personally perpetuated this hoax / fraud / lie. You have been blessed by your career hoax as you have truly obtained power and profit over people. How can you admit it with a straight face and then continue the lie about the validity of the hoax?
G: Let’s review. You just exposed that Satan will be back after his role goes extinct in “The Lake of Fire”. That has to mean that your “in control” Biblical God produced and directed this hoax, fraud and lie with His play-actor, Satan.
God’s word is now proved to be all lies and it is now more than obvious that the Biblical God does not exist. You have pulled back the curtain that has truly exposed “The Wizard of Oz.” It all proves to be lies. Shame on you, Arnold Murray, for knowing this and pushing the sham for 55 years! Think of all the authoritative intimidation and fear that you and other clergy have bestowed on humanity! You are exposed and you should be tried for mental cruelty concerning this heinous, life-stealing joke.
This program was shown on DISH TV COLRS channel 9407 - series 131 Ezekiel.
This may be the biggest breakthrough of my 27-year Bible study. Arnold Murray, by stating that Satan was a play-actor, who will be back after Judgment-Day has been caught exposing the scam / hoax / lie / fraud of the Judeo-Christian religion.
So is this the “end-time” sequence?
1. First - I die. Yes.
2. Then comes the 1,000 year “Millennium”. Yes.
3. Then comes God’s “Judgment Day”. Yes.
4. Then Who judges me? God.
5. Then Who saves me? Jesus - if you properly obeyed God.
6. Isn’t Jesus God? Yes. God plays the Jesus role.
7. What is Satan’s role? God also plays the Satan role.
8. Then it is Heaven of Hell for eternity.
9. It is all for God’s pleasure.
Personally, I, Gary DeVaney, view that Pastor Arnold Murray, due to his Marine Corps / Korean War experience, relives and shares his traumatic life and death war experiences with his TV audiences. Often, Murray proudly shares / vents that he has shed blood for his country. That constant, authoritative declaration has solidified his god-like “might makes right” ego / conscience. I view that Murray would cherish any authority-ordered war mission (legal or not) to go kill or die for his God and country. He is a true war-monger (just to the political right of Attila-the-Hun). He believes than any who have not shared - or don’t care to share - his life and death experiences to be wimps. Murray supports the Biblical God’s Bible “kill every man, woman and child” documentation. Pastor Arnold Murray has adopted the Biblical God-model of tyranny, dictatorship, discipline and murder - who loves only who serves his ego-god on his terms. The rest - who date to think differently or to think for themselves - Murray arrogantly considers, can be eliminated and go to Hell.
Pastor Arnold Murray’s son Pastor Dennis Murray has publicly admitted that - as a member of “the elect” - he has no free-will of his own. His life is considered to be cast in stone by God (and his father) and Dennis is so God-Virus indoctrinated, he can not think freely for himself. After studying Pastor Arnold Murray’s dictatorial behavior for almost 20 years, I can see the toll his torturous discipline and his mealy-mouthed blessings must have taken on poor Dennis. Dennis is successful on Arnold’s coattails, while mentally / emotionally he appears to be in a small cell in the prison that Arnold’s ego / god has forced him into. The “God Virus” that Arnold has infected Dennis with - since he was a baby - is so advanced, Dennis’ denial would be automatic and believable. Other Murray sons may not get Dennis’ “blessings”. I like, understand and accept Dennis - but I feel so sorry for him. I’m confident that Dennis feels proud of the sacrifice his life has made just as Arnold cherishes his - kill or be killed attitude - that he imposes on all who listen to him.
Kill Or Be Killed
While denial is automatic, Murray indicates that he categorically wants all to be like him - or else.
Pastor Arnold Murray - and authoritative dictators like him - has caused me to reflect on my attitude toward him and his ego / god.
Pastor Arnold Murray, you can ask anything of me - as long as you are capable of accepting rejection.
Pastor Murray, your ego / god - is not entitled to expect of me. I give your ego / god no authority to command me. I am immune to your ego / god imposed praise and punishment.
Regards, Gary DeVaney - Retired Captain Army NG / USAR (1961-1983)
Religion is primitive politics - which is power and profit over people. This is my documented study - and my personal conclusion. GWD
Questions? Corrections? Comments?