by Gary DeVaney
the beginning, there was The Book of Genesis. And, it was good. Only much later did different people think of it in different
ways”. (Cover of Time Magazine, October 1996)
is The Creation, as presented by the Torah, the Hebrew 5-book origin of The Old Testament. The King James and Catholic
versions both came, Chapter and Verse, from The Torah. I took C&V selections from each of these 3 sources
in my investigation and documentation of this work.
Lois was asked: Perceive that there was no book of Genesis. What would the creationists have
Lois answered: Nothing. Without Genesis, Christians have no basis for creationism, unless
they wish to steal any of the hundreds of other creation stories from other cultures. In fact, the Genesis story is totally
stolen from other cultures. But, Christian creationists will never admit it.
chapters 1 & 2: There are two conflicting versions of
1:1 God created Heaven and Earth.
1:2 & 1:9 state: The Earth was covered by water first.
2:6 The Earth was land first; a stream came up watering the ground.
A contradiction? Genesis 2:6 conflicts with Genesis 1:2 & 1:9 - water 1st, not land 1st.
1:3 Then, God said: Let there be light.
What? There was light on the 1st day? How? When
you learn that God doesn't make the Sun and the Moon until the 4th day as documented in Genesis 1:14-17, you may realize that this
is a Bible conflict / contradiction.
6:8 God separated the water on Earth with the sky.
God spent a whole day of creation to do what?
1:9 God separated dry land from the seas.
1:11 God made vegetation.
God make vegetation before God made man?
1:14-17 God made the Sun and the Moon.
where did the light come from on the 1st day according to Genesis 1:3 when God said: Let there be light? The Bible again gives
incomplete information. The Bible is not a well-written book.
1:20-22 God created living sea monsters and flying creatures.
it interesting that no species of Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible? The word Behemoth is mentioned but that is a
poor representation of all the awesome pre-historic animals.
1:24-25 God created land animals.
Here God created "land animals" first before God created man.
1:26 God said: Let US create man in OUR image.
did God say this to? Obviously, God is not alone.
1:27 God created man, male and female.
they Adam and Eve? Pastor Arnold Murray claims no - that these human beings were "The 6th Day Creation". Murray claims that Adam
and Eve were created on the 8th day to begin a lineage for Jesus Christ.
does go "where no man has gone before" - in my judgment. Yes, I make judgments. Do you make important decisions without using
judgment? Would you teach your child to cross a busy street without using judgment?
1:28 God told man to conquer the land and to dominate everything.
"order" validates why men become tyrants. The Holy Bible is quickly shaping up to become a tyrant and terrorist handbook -
if you could possibly dare to see it that way.
2:3 God ceased from all work on the 7th day.
would God stop or need rest? God is all-powerful, isn't He? Did God rest for 1 Earth day or for 1,000 Earth years?
Peter 3:8 states a paraphrase of Psalm 90:4 "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone
by, or like a watch in the night."
that neither of these references say that a thousand years is a day but only like a day. It is
meant as a figure of speech, not an actual equivalent: Louis Cable http://www.inu.net/skeptic
Louis. Your website is extremely informative. I highly recommend it for those who wish to learn.
Pastor Murray, most clergy view that Adam and Eve were the first human beings created on the 6th day. Adam was formed out
of clay and Eve was formed from one of Adam's ribs. How can a logical, reasonable person not question the validity
of the Bible? If Adam and Eve were created on the 6th day and God was out of the picture for the whole 7th day / 1000
Earth years, then Adam and Eve had to be over 1000 Earth years old when God worked with them again. But Genesis 5:5 documents
that Adam lived only 930 years. I find this contradictory and confusing.
this 1st version, God created man and woman simultaneously and equal on the 6th day. Animals and everything else already
Bible input deems that Mankind was created about 6000 years ago.
2:5 No shrubs or plants existed; no rain, no man yet to work the ground.
2:7 God formed Man out of the ground.
In this 2nd version, man was formed out of the ground before God made plants and animals? This Biblical myth is
also doubtful because what would man eat?
science proves that a human being cannot be formed in a 24 hour day out of mere Earth dirt. 2nd, science proves that a living
woman cannot be formed in a 24 hour day merely out of a man's rib. If there was more to the story, then the Bible is
poorly written and sorely lacking in understandable structure and content. The Bible, so far, shows no logical or reasonable
merit. Why do believers insist on believing this over-the-top nonsense? Why do they then push their nonsensical beliefs on
2:7-9 does conflict with Genesis 1:11 & Genesis 1:27. How can believers believe in a Bible that proves to conflict with
"authorities" claim that the "J" (Jehovistic) version and the "E" (Elohim) version are from 2 schools of authorship
- not from 2 individuals. "J" was from Judea / Jerusalem and "E" was from northern Israel.
credit Moses for writing the Torah. Moses was associated with Egypt. Egypt was one of the ancient cultures that started a
myth of creation; but the Hebrews / Jews did not buy into Egypt's version of creation nor anyone else's afterlife
2:11-12 There's especially good gold, pearls and precious stones. (Torah)
what? Other than a monkey attraction to shiny objects, with no commercial / barter system in place, what's the point?
2:15 God placed man in the Garden of Eden to cultivate and take care for it. Catholic
First, in Genesis 1:28 God gave man dominion over the
Earth and now man is confined to a garden - and he
hasn't even sinned yet.
God does change His mind! How can God be "omnipotent" (all knowing) and always in control - if God changes His
mind? Most believers demand that you believe that God never changes His mind whatsoever. Under what circumstance would a Judeo-Christian-Islamic
believer ever admit that he or she is wrong? What a maddening thought!
Burton Visotsky Ph.D: God is alone in the Universe. If God fills the Universe, how can God create anything? God is
afraid if man is alone, he will think.
clergy, like Rabbi Visotsky, have claimed
that God was alone and lonely so God created man. Due to God's words "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26, and later in Genesis another myth refers to "The Sons of God"; obviously, these clergy
are in error. God was not alone before He is claimed to have created mankind. Jesus and Satan both existed since the
beginning of creation. According to the Bible, God was not alone.
2:17 God said to Adam: In the day (KJV) on the day (Torah) in the moment (Catholic) you eat of the
"Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil", you shall surely die.
Genesis 5:5 Adam died at 930 years old - which conflicts
with Genesis 2:17 "in or on the day" (especially) "in the moment" you
eat the forbidden fruit, you shall surely die.
there was no “spiritual” death in the OT. The serpent, who was then put on his belly for the rest of his finite
life, told the truth while God lied concerning “In the day” (KJV) “on the day” (Torah) “in the moment” (Catholic) wording
to Adam and Eve. Peter 2:3 may try to spin "in the day" claiming that one day for God is a thousand years - but it can't spin
"in the moment". It is the Jewish Rabbi who needs to straighten out Christian clergy as to “God’s truth”
within the words of the Old Testament - for the Old Testament IS the book of the Jews.
Genesis 2:18-22 God wanted Adam to have a compatible
helper so God formed out of the ground various animals. Adam named each living thing and found no helper. While asleep, God
built what He took from the man into a woman.
God formed man from out of the ground before God formed animals from out of the ground. Man was made from the same dirt
that animals were made from. That does not set man apart from animals any more than they are set apart from each other.
made animals after God made Adam. Then God made woman from one of Adam's ribs. Due to Chapters and Verses
like this, many churches, even today, consider it sacrilege to espouse equal rights for women. What an ignorant, stupid and
God asked Adam what he wanted in a mate. Adam said: Cook, clean and great sex. God said: That will cost you an arm and a leg.
Adam asked: What can I get for a rib?
one Bible story, God creates both Adam and Eve simultaneously in one act. That makes them equal. Later, in another story,
God takes a rib from Adam to create Eve. Now, she is considered to be an inferior creature and a subordinate to Adam. The
second story has Adam more divine than Eve because Adam was created first and was preferred by God. The second story
is obviously inconsistent with the first story of Adam and Eve. Which story do you prefer? If you are male, and believe that
you are superior to all women, you probably shouldn't tell your mother, your sister, your girlfriend or your
Adam came from dirt, like the animals came from dirt, and Eve came from Adam's living rib; then, didn't Eve come from something more
advanced than Adam did? Adam came from dirt. Eve came from a human gene base. To conclude, which, the man or the woman, came
from superior stock?
the creation of man and woman a response to some need inside God? Can God, a supposed "perfect" being, need?
was God's motive to create mankind? Pastor Arnold Murray claims that there was a "First Earth Age" whereby Satan went bad
and wanted God's throne. 1/3rd of Heaven's Angels followed Satan so God created mankind for all those souls to live
lives through so to judge those souls worthiness for serving God for eternity. Murray selects various Bible C&Vs to determine
this scenario. It certainly is not a popular mainstream Bible dogma.
2:19-21 God formed animals and birds from the ground. Adam gave them names.
that all animals came from the ground, not just mankind and that man originated on planet Earth and did not
come from outer space.
Bible Note: In ancient Israel, a day was deemed to begin at sunset.
that sound crazy to you? Well, how about the fact that today, in the year 2006, our morning begins at 12 o'clock midnight.
By nomenclature, how can "midnight" (the middle of the night) be morning? Our modern tradition is still nuts.
Genesis 2:25 They were naked and not embarrassed by
Genesis 3:1 The serpent was the most cunning of all
animals. It asked questions of Eve.
highest form of thought is the question. Satan proves to be a thinker. God probably doesn't like that.
Bible says "Serpent" - not "Satan".
clergy insist that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan. That Satan tempted Eve, who shared the forbidden fruit with
Adam, which caused mankind to fall from the grace of God and that this act created sin. Due to this myth, many churches
blame women for causing the first sin and this also has made women the lesser, inferior and subordinate human as traditionalized
by man's poor treatment of women throughout recorded history.
personally view that man is just another predator / animal that tends to be dominant and cruel to smaller, weaker
and more ignorant animals. Men tend to kill and eat most of those animals. Men tend to often treat women authoritatively
and cruelly simply because they can - as women tend to be physically smaller and weaker. Enforceable modern laws have successfully
altered most of modern men's authoritative and cruel behavior towards women. Modern laws are certainly a positive progress
from God's Biblical guidance concerning man's treatment of women.
Genesis 3:2-4 Eve said to the Serpent: God told me:
Eat the forbidden fruit and we will die. The Serpent said to Eve: Eat it and you will certainly not die. (This
indicates that God lied to Eve.) God knows that on the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be as gods
who know good and evil.
stated exactly the same thing in Genesis 3:22 confirming the Serpent's integrity.
and Eve ate of the "forbidden fruit" and they did not die. Again, Genesis
5:5 documents that Adam lived to 930 years of age. Which one, God or the Serpent, frankly lied? Who did not
tell the truth? Mindset believers will argue and spin that "surely die" means a "spiritual" death. What else can they say
other than they are wrong believing that God couldn't lie or deceive people. There is no qualification here that separates
the word die (death) from what it means in later English-speaking C&V scripture. Dust to dust is mentioned. No
after-life is mentioned.
Genesis 3:11-14 God questioned Adam. Adam snitched on Eve. Eve snitched
on the Serpent. They all got punished. It could have been worse, you say? God could have fulfilled His words and killed them?
What could be worse that condemning the human species to be born into sin that will cause them eternal torture, pain
and suffering for failing a scenario that God created? Reflect. What could be worse than that?
one of God's measurable days is 1000 Earth years, God is not "eternal" because God is affected by time.
If God is affected by a day, which is a measurement of time, then God is affected by time.
ancient Rabbinical comments: Women walk at the head of the funeral procession because woman brought death into the world.
Why does a woman menstruate? Because, she shed the blood of Adam. This is her punishment and why it is called "the curse".
Snake is a wisdom figure and one of immortality. It sheds its skin and is born again.
Snake is used, prestigiously, in identifying the medical profession.
Genesis 3:14 God said to the Serpent: On your belly
you shall crawl all the days of your life.
some insist that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan? If so, why has Satan NOT been depicted to be on his belly
throughout history? He hasn't. Isn't Satan depicted to look mostly like a man? If Satan has "powers" and can change shape
- then, God's punishment had little effect on him. God's integrity and power, by His Own words, are diminished. Doesn't it
also appear that Satan has a limited lifespan?
Genesis 3:16 God promised woman to multiply her
sorrow for conception of her children and that she would be ruled over by her husband.
can't be much clearer than this as to woman's subservience to man. What a God!
here is childbirth pain and goodbye equality. Later however, the Queen of Sheba, at the time of King Solomon, ruled over an
Arab country, of all things. Cleopatra, a Greek woman, was the last great Pharaoh of Egypt. Inconsistencies? Neither
of these women were subordinate to men as God projected. Both powerful women had sex with powerful men for political purposes
and advantages. What are these "models of virtue" teaching your daughters? Islamic women today are getting stoned to death
for daring to drive cars. Is this the same God for all time and for all people on planet Earth? Apparently not.
Genesis 3:17-19 To Adam, God said: Because you listened
to your wife and ate from the tree I forbid you, the ground shall be cursed because of you. You return to the ground from
which you are taken; for you are dirt.
God told Adam of his fate, does God mention any afterlife, Heaven or Hell? Let me help you. NO.
of relying on clergy or others to inform you, read the Bible for yourself. Wisdom cannot be taught. You are the only thinker
in your entire universe. You can only think and decide what is fact for yourself.
3:20 Adam called his wife Eve because she was the mother of all the living.
All the living? So, Eve is the mother of crabs? Obviously, this is another erroneous Biblical statement.
3:22 God said: Man has now become like one of us in knowing good and evil.
is the God's C&V confirmation that the Serpent told the truth in Genesis 3:2-4.
Remember that in Genesis 3:4 the Serpent had said to Eve: God knows that
on the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be as gods who know good and evil. God, Himself, in Genesis 3:22 just verified that the Serpent told the truth.
Genesis 3:23 God said He (Adam) must be prevented from taking from the Tree
Of Life and living forever. God banished man from the Garden of Eden.
1 Timothy 2:14 Adam was not deceived. The woman (Eve) was deceived
If this "perfect" Biblical God gave Adam and Eve "free will", then God did
not know how His "perfect creation" would use it. That proves that the Biblical God did not know-it-all and that
God is not omnipotent. Also, how "free" is anything if there is a horrible price or consequence to pay?
If just one human being on Earth truly has free-will, God is not in control.
If God never changes, God has no free-will.
And, there is that US thing again. God is showing this to other gods? So, if
man eats from the Tree Of Life and Knowledge, he not only gets smart but he also gets the potential to live forever. That
makes this Biblical God angry? Man gains judgment, without which he cannot make decisions and God gets mad? Conclusion: This
"fruit" separated man from dumb animals and what appears beneficial to man obviously make this God angry. What's so bad about
distinguishing good from evil? Don't you want your children to know good from evil, right from wrong? You would think that
it was evil for who wants to stop you from knowing right from wrong, good from bad - but noooo. It proves to be God
who does that. Can you explain this?
Did God put the Serpent in the Garden to trap innocent Adam and Eve; then,
throw tantrums and punish them and all their future children? Didn't know-it-all God know that the Serpent would sabotage
His plans, unless, in reality, that was God's plan? If that was God's plan - then Who is EVIL?
Doesn't it take something imperfect to create something imperfect? Was God
in fear of being judged good or evil? Was performing good and / or evil all the same to this God? Isn't unauthorized knowledge
considered evil to man just like it is to God? If this God should be evil, then, how would you know it unless you knew the
difference between good and evil? Believers behave as if they do NOT know the difference between GOOD and EVIL concerning
the Biblical God. By not knowing the difference, could evil have its way with you? Notice how God gets hostile once the difference
is known. Why? Was God's intent for man to remain as dumb as the animals? Rather than question God, would you prefer to be
as dumb as animals? Why get an education then? Are kids who drop out of school just being "religiously correct"?
for God: God, are You all-knowing?
why do You condemn mankind if You knew that Adam and Eve would sin?
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