Was Jesus Christ Ready To Fulfill His Destiny?
Jesus is about to be tortured and crucified to fulfill God’s agenda.
Luke 22:43 To strengthen Jesus, an Angel from Heaven appeared to Him.
Now, somehow that’s cheating. Most humans don’t report getting that strengthening courtesy just hours before their death. Maybe it’s the Greek physician in Doctor Luke talking.
Luke 22:44 Jesus was in such agony and He prayed so fervently that His sweat became like drops of blood falling on the ground.
Matthew 26:37-39 Jesus began to feel sorrow and distress. Jesus said: My soul is sorrowful even to death. My Father, if possible, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME.
Jesus begged God, His Father, to save Him – 3 times.
C. Dennis McKinsey: At this point, it doesn’t sound much like Jesus is very interested in dying for His fellow man, or for the fulfillment of anything.
Matthew 27:46 Jesus (on the cross) said: “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” (“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?”)
God, the almighty, perfect, just, fair and loving forsakes His only begotton Son, Jesus Christ.
“Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani?”
My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?
The Biblical God planned the torture and crucifixion of His Son, Jesus Christ. Jesus had begged to be saved. God denied Jesus. Will God deny you?
Before Jesus’ crucifixion:
Luke 12:4 Jesus said: Be not afraid of them that kill the body…
Isn’t this another controversial conflict? Isn’t Jesus again saying: Do as I say, not as I do? Wasn’t Jesus described to be really sweating it? Haven’t mere humans faced death braver than in this description? Conversely, if Jesus wanted what was about to happen, wasn’t His act a form of suicide? So, should suicide be ok, if only in this case, within the believers’ value systems?
If Jesus could opt out of His flesh body into His “transfigured body” at will, Jesus may not have experienced the pain His flesh body would have endured on the cross. See: “Jesus’ transfigured body”
Bill Moyers, author of his great book Genesis: “God actually put His son on the cross to bleed in agony for other people. This is a God who would save us by doing that to a human being?”
Matthew 27:46 Jesus said: My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me? KJV
God forsakes Jesus! Well, so much for Bible credibility and not for all the obvious reasons. As much as our hearts tug with pain due to Jesus’ suffering death, it tends to shock and anger some that Matthew 27:46 is more evidence that the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ is staged / plagiarized!
These words: “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” verbalized by Jesus Christ during His painful death-throws, were verbatim to Bible C&V words written a thousand years earlier, by King David. This is exhibited, as evidence, in The King James Version of: Psalm 22:1 “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?” A little m for me as it was King David, not Jesus Christ, depicted in Psalm 22:1.
It is evident that many things written in the Bible have been “borrowed / plagiarized / adopted”, after the fact, from many pagan religions to make up the “composite character” of Jesus Christ. This is evidence of one of the greatest “adoptions”. Did Jesus, a God, during His death-struggle, quote these already written words, or were His words applied, after the fact, by Biblical Old Testament plagiarism? If this is but plagiarism, how much more of the life of Jesus Christ was but a composite plagiarism of other religious heroes?
Luke 23:46 Jesus cried out: “Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit” and breathed His last.
Psalm 31:5 Into Thine hands I commend my spirit. KJV
Jesus does not prove to be a descendent of King David – but a mere composite of David’s poetry in Psalms. Did these Gospel writers make up Jesus and put words in His mouth in a guise to fulfill prophesy?
T. S. Eliot claimed that bad poets borrow but good poets steal.
C. Dennis McKinsey e-mailed me that it was Jesus’ Divinity that took a hit.
Matthew 27:52-53 When Jesus died by crucifixion, tombs were opened and the bodies of many dead saints raised forth from their tombs, entered the city and appeared to many.
What? Is Matthew credible? No history bearing nation: Rome, Israel, Egypt etc. nor Mark, Luke, John, Paul (nor Ringo) bothered to make such a claim. If that had really happened, would it not be worth mentioning by at least one of the other Gospel or New Testament writers? Either Matthew took extraordinary or zealous literary license, or he had a sense of humor. Maybe, he got so excited he forgot to take his medication.
Job 7:9 He that goes down to the grave comes up no more.
Oh, what to believe?
Luke 24: 41-43 (After Jesus’ resurrection) Jesus appeared to His disciples and asked them: Have you anything here to eat? They gave Him a piece of baked fish; He took it and ate it in front of them.
Matthew 28:20 The “resurrected” Jesus said: And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.
C. Dennis McKinsey: The end of anything is not always.
1. The worship of idols. (Do crosses and people on them qualify?
2. Excess devotion or reverence for some person or thing.
(Does Jesus Christ qualify?)
John 7:34 Jesus said: You will seek Me and shall not find Me; and, where I am, you can not come.
Jesus often explained Himself and His values by speaking parables. He spoke of fictitious characters to represent Himself and to describe His points. Did Jesus speak of a fictitious God in the same manner? Did Jesus invent His personal God so to be better heard?
If the Biblical God has planned and pre-destined our moment of death and planned all the “evil” things we do or that are done to us; then, what is the role or purpose for any Satan or devil?
Luke 19:27 Jesus said (in a parable): “Now as for those enemies of Mine who did not want Me to be their King, bring them here and slay them before Me”. Catholic
"Slay Them Before Me"
Jesus Said: Bring Them Before Me And Slay Them? Does Jesus document, C&V, that He wants those murdered who won’t allow Him to be their King so that Jesus can reign over them? What other King in the New Testament stressed his adenda to expand his Kingdom? Wasn’t it Jesus Who said these Bible C&V words – that will not conveinently go away? Do you realize that if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your savior, God will judge you and send your soul for “Eternal Torment” in Hell? If you intellectually understand and emotionally accept either one of these agendas, what does not convince you about the other agenda?
Revelation 2:18-23 “The Son of Man” (Jesus Christ) condemns a harlot / adultress for not repenting. (Jesus Christ then said): “I will kill her children".
I personally really don’t care if this is a spiritual / fantasy or literal passage. Don’t these Bible C&Vs (Luke 19:27 and Revelation 2:23) qualify Jesus Christ (fictional or not) as a violent, tyrannical, cruel, murderous Character?
Many heroes throughout history have done many great things and were sent to prision for just one bad act.
Jesus was a dreamer who may have sold believers dreams and salvation nightmares. If it were not for ego-driven fear and hope, 100% of clergy and 90% of therapists would be out of a job.
Is eternal death not a happier prospect than eternal existence – if one can be tormented for eternity – or have to be a slave to a tyrannical God for eternity?
Hosea 1:2 God said to Hosea: Go take a harlot for a wife.
God actually tells His prophet, Hosea, to take a hooker, prostitute, whore, harlot for his wife?
What kind of model or message is God sending your son – or your daughter?
Luke 10:16 Jesus “equates”: To reject or despise Jesus is to reject or despise God.
How many clergy have also said: To reject them was to reject God? Does religion prove to be a hierarchy of an ego’s master / slave agenda.
John 13:23-25 One of His disciples, the one whom Jesus loved, was reclining at Jesus’ side, leaned back against Jesus’ chest.
“The disciple whom Jesus loved”. Most clergy won’t openly discuss this character. Why? Was this disciple gay? John’s writings were pretty gay – filled with the un-manly feelings that others had in common. Often, John wrote with sensitivity and feelings – far different in style and content from the other writers. I personally do not view that the John of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John was the same writer of 1st John, 2nd John 3rd John nor the writer of Revelation.
John 19:26 (On the cross): When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved, He said to His mother: Woman, behold your son. Then He said to the disciple (He loved): Behold your mother. The disciple took her into his home.
Mary Beholds Jesus Crucifixion
Who said: No one can take My sheep out of My hand?
Who said: I came not to send peace but the sword, father against son, daughter against mother?
Who said: He that has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one?
Who will rule over the house of Jacob, forever?
Who said: Whoever loves his mother etc. more than Me is not worthy of Me?
Who said: I have come to set the Earth on fire. How I wish it were already blazing?
Who said: Children will rise up against their parents and put them to death?
Who said: Without hating his mother etc. – he cannot be My disciple?
Who said to his mother: Woman, how does your concern affect Me?
Who said: Whoever believes – serpents and drinking poison will not harm them?
Who said: Friend, who appointed Me as your judge?
Who said: Sell your belongings and give alms?
Who said: Who does not renounce all his possessions cannot be My disciple?
Who was at meal in His house?
Who said that He was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
Who said: Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering heaven before you?
Who said: Heaven will pass away?
Who said: This generation will not pass away until all these things take place?
Who said: Let this cup pass from Me three (3) different times?
Who said: My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me? Who died, tombs opened, dead bodies raised and appeared to many?
Where is “The Virgin Mary’s” husband, Joseph? Dead? Divorced? What? Nobody cares? The disciple, whom Jesus loved, could be Andrew’s brother, John; as none of Jesus’ brothers were His disciples. Jesus’ brother James did assume control over the church in Jerusalem after Jesus was crucified. Later, James and his crowd were wiped out. Behold, your mother cannot be literal. Also, a must requirement for discipleship was found in:
Luke 14:33: Everyone had to give up everything they owned to follow Jesus.
So, John could not have had a home of his own to take Jesus’ mother into.
Matthew 27:5 Judas (Iscariot, Jesus’ betrayer) went off and hanged himself.
Is this another Biblical conflict or contradiction?
Acts 1:18 Judas, falling headlong, burst open and his guts gushed out.
Jesus died for our sins: In any value system, how can justice be served by executing an innocent man for the crimes or sins of others? If we support this doctrine and its God, we support that. Would anyone volunteer his or her child for Jeffery Dahlmer’s or Adolf Hitler’s crimes? Don’t we support a God who wants vengeance and doesn’t care who pays the price?
A Translation Argument: One great argument between Biblical authorities and us poor, Biblically illiterate is: Many of the authoritative clergy and the assumed elect manipulate the English Bible’s words by stating they don’t say what the original texts say. They refer back to the original Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew to establish authority over what is “God’s word” written in English.
Some “assumed to be of the elect” (preachers) argue for authority, control and power by stating: You are reading the English versions and don’t know what the Bible really says or means. You are Biblically illiterate. I will tell you what the Bible means. Convert, conform, worship, obey, support, promote and send money!
If what is written in English is not what the Bible means, then they (those assumed elect) must be admitting that our English-written Bible is inaccurate and poorly written – thus flawed.
Personally, I only speak and read English. It was the Catholic “easy English” version that I was most able to grasp and mostly take issue with. I still do struggle through the King James Version, too. Often, between Bibles, one version is more controversial than the other version is. If it’s not in understandable English, I’m not guessing about it.
Many see only the good things and ignore or avoid the controversial and negative C&Vs the Bible holds.
Declaration: If I am wrong about these Biblical passages that I have selected to comment on, I am a fool. But, if I am accurate, I have learned much, and dared to share it. I am not responsible for what the Bible says. I, like you, am not responsible for how others feel about what the Bible says. I, you, and all Americans, have our Constitutional right, by law, to question and express our opinions on any and all writings.
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