Why Jesus Christ Can Not Be God
Ephesians 5:2 Christ gave Himself for us an offering / sacrifice to God…
If Jesus knowingly commited a form of suicide as a sacrificial offering to the Biblical God, Jesus cannot be God.
Hebrews 1:4-7 & Psalms 8:5-6 both prove that Jesus was “begotten / sired” by God.
Jesus can not be God if Jesus was made / begotten / sired by God. That would be like you are your father.
God had the Angels worship “Him”, Jesus. “Him” is not the same as “Me”.
1 John 5:12 Jesus said: He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Here Jesus said He was the Son of God – not God.
Colossians 1:15 Jesus was the first-born of creation. Catholic
Jesus was created?
Colossians 1:15 Jesus was the first-born of all creatures. KJV
Tradition and dogma dictates that the Biblical God was not born. Jesus was the first-born of all creatures? Jesus was a creature?
The KJV Bible writers did not like the older Catholic version because if Jesus is God, Jesus can not be created as Jesus is claimed to be infinite – meaning – Jesus, like God, has always existed and He always will exist. The trouble is when there is a documented Bible C&V contratiction, one can not have it both ways. One can not walk through solid walls – except in one’s imagination.
Conclusion: By Bible C&V evidence: Jesus Christ is not The Old Testament Biblical God.
Luke 2:52 Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
What? Jesus increased in favor with God? Then, Jesus Christ certainly is not God.
Physics law states that energy can not be created nor destroyed. But, energy does mutate, evolve and change into other forms of energy. The Biblical God is claimed to be unchanging, the same, from “The Alpha to the Omega”, the beginning to the end.
Hummm, if the Biblical God is unchanging and always the same – then God, Himself, hos no "freewill".
For learning to be proved, some change must take place. If the Biblical God is unchanging and always the same – then, God is incapable of learning.
If the Biblical God is the same from the beginning to the end – doesn’t that mean that God as a beginning and an end?
"God can do ALL things?" Really? Can God die?
Dr. William R. Jones, Jr. of “The Bethany Hour”: Faith is something you have or you don’t have. When faith is operative, then you believe what you cannot prove, you see the invisible, you trust the unknowable and you even embrace the illogical. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.
Dr. William R. Jones, Jr.
G: This is an excellent Bible definition of “believers faith”. Dr. Jones was a televangelist who has a remarkable baritone voice and when he talked, his voice was one of the most hypnotically convincing in the promotion of faith and belief.
The Holman Bible Dictionary: Sacrifice is food and drink for the gods to satisfy what they need. In return, forgiveness is assumed.
Sacraments: The sacraments are a bizarre concept that a reward for eternal life is in the eating of Jesus Christ’s Human flesh and the drinking of His Human blood.
G: It is a wonder, that with the still primitive, monkey-mind, mental mechanism of man, there isn’t more cannibalism in the world in pursuit of blood sacrifice for salvation. Some primitive rituals practiced today may still influence this dangerous, cannibalistic behavior for the less than mentally / emotionally stable. Do believers put themselves in a God’s role by pretending to drink Jesus’ blood and eat his flesh to satisfy their mythical salvation needs? When objectively and morally evaluated, it comes across as a pretty sick and immoral scenario.
The Sacraments: The drinking of Jesus Christ’s blood and the eating of Jesus Christ’s Body, some say, is religion and an art-form. Is the Biblical God – but an art-form within the agenda of a manipulative, tyrannical con-artist – Who assumes authority over you? Fear, based on ignorance, is used to motivate obedience, conformity, exploitation and the life-stealing sacrifice of innocent, ignorant people.
These works, on this website are designed to expose, by evidence, cruel religious manipulations and human vulnerabilities. They are designed to expose Bible C&V facts. Is this agenda to draw believers? No! You are the only thinker in your entire universe. You can think for yourself. Some fear that change will disrupt their order. Well, consider the law and order experienced for the past 2,000 years through the guidance and the models illustrated by the Bible and its God.
Was Jesus Christ ready to fulfill His destiny?
Matthew 26:37-39 Jesus began to feel sorrow and distress. He said: My soul is sorrowful even to death. My Father, if possible, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME. KJV
C. Dennis McKinsey: At this point, it doesn’t sound much like Jesus is very interested in dying for His fellow man, or for the fulfillment of anything.
Luke 22:43 To strengthen Jesus, an angel from Heaven appeared to Him.
Now, somehow that’s cheating. Most Human Beings don’t report getting that strengthening courtesy just hours before their death. Maybe it’s the physician in Doctor Luke talking.
Luke 22:44 Jesus was in such agony and He prayed so fervently that His sweat became like drops of blood falling on the ground.
Luke 12:4 Jesus said: Be not afraid of them that kill the body…
Isn’t this another controversial conflict? Isn’t Jesus again saying: Do as I say, not as I do? Wasn’t Jesus described to be really sweating it? Haven’t mere humans faced death braver than in this description? Conversely, if Jesus wanted what was about to happen, wasn’t His act a form of suicide? If Jesus is God, didn`t God commit suicide? So, should suicide be ok, if only in this case, within the believers’ value systems?
Hummm, if Jesus could opt out of His flesh body into His “Transfigured Body” at will, Jesus may not have experienced the pain His flesh body would have endured on the cross.
See: “Jesus’ transfigured body”:http://www.thegodmurders.com/Transfigured%20Body.html
Bill Moyers, author of his great book Genesis: “God actually put His son on the cross to bleed in agony for other people. This is a God who would save us by doing that to a Human Being?”
Jesus Christ, according to the Bible, was in a bad situation and Jesus needed to be saved. Jesus begged God, His Father, to “let this cup pass from Him” so to be saved. God was in charge. God did not save His “perfect” son. God planned and had Jesus be tortured and crucified to death. While dying, Jesus cried out to God, His father, “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken Me?”
If God is “The Savior” and / or “The judge for Eternal Torment”, what makes you think that God would save you in your lifetime or would save you to serve God for Eternity? Jesus begged God to save Him. God refused. If God could do that to His own Son, what makes you feel so special? Does the Biblical God terrorize you to make Him a fear-based, worshipful factor in your life?
Matthew 27:46 Jesus said: My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me? (Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?)
God Forsakes Jesus. Well, so much for Bible credibility and not for all the obvious reasons. As much as our hearts tug with pain due to Jesus’ suffering death, it tends to shock and anger some that it is all staged.
“Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani?”
“My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?”
Matthew 27:46 is more evidence that it is staged. These words, verbalized by Jesus during His painful death-throws, were verbatim to Biblical words written a thousand years earlier, by King David. This is exhibited, as evidence, in The King James Version of:
Psalm 22:1 My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?
A little m for me as it was David, not Jesus, depicted in Psalm 22:1.
Concerning Psalm 22:1. It is evident that many things have been “borrowed” after the fact from many pagan religions to make up the composite character of Jesus Christ and this is evidence of one of the greatest adoptions. Did Jesus, a God, during His death-struggle, quote these already written words, or were His words applied, after the fact, by Biblical Old Testament plagiarism? If this is but plagiarism, how much more of the life of Jesus Christ was but a composite plagiarism of other religious heroes?
Luke 23:46 Jesus cried out: Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit and breathed His last.
Psalm 31:5 Into Thine hands I commend my spirit. KJV
Jesus does not prove to be a descendent of King David – but a mere composite of David’s poetry in Psalms. Did these Gospel writers make up Jesus and put words in His mouth in a guise to fulfill prophesy?
T. S. Eliot claimed that bad poets borrow but good poets steal.
Dennis McKinsey e-mailed me that it was Jesus’ Divinity that took a hit.
Matthew 27:52-53 When Jesus died by crucifixion, tombs were opened and the bodies of many dead saints raised forth from their tombs, entered the city and appeared to many.
Is Matthew credible? No history bearing nation: Rome, Israel, Egypt etc. nor Mark, Luke, John, Paul (nor Ringo) bothered to make such a claim. If that had really happened, would it not be worth mentioning by at least one of the other Gospel or New Testament writers? Either Matthew took extraordinary or zealous literary license, or he had a sense of humor. Maybe, he got so excited he forgot to take his medication.
Jesus Is Missing From His Tomb
Job 7:9 He that goes down to the grave comes up no more. Oh, what to believe?
Luke 24: 41-43 (After Jesus’ resurrection) Jesus appeared to His disciples and asked them: Have you anything here to eat? They gave Him a piece of baked fish; Jesus took it and ate it in front of them.
Matthew 28:20 The resurrected Jesus said: And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.
C. Dennis McKinsey: The end of anything is not always.
Idolatry: (Two Dictionary Definitions)
1. The worship of idols. Do crosses and people on them qualify?
2. Excess devotion or reverence for some person or thing. Does Jesus qualify?
In the 10 Commandments, God ordered His followers not to make idols nor to worship Idols.
God then ordered Moses to build "The Arc of the Covenant". God`s / Moses` followers worshipped "The Arc of the Covenant". God ordered Moses to build an idol to be worshipped.
Angry God had poisonous snakes kill His "Chosen People". The people complained to Moses, who in turn, complained to God. God then ordered Moses to make "A Snake Wrapped Around A Pole" so that those who saw it would not die. The people worshipped "A Snake Wrapped Around A Pole" that saved them. Today, "A Snake Wrapped Around A Pole" is a medical symbol called a "Caduceus".
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not Mine, but His that sent Me.
Jesus admits that He is not God.
John 7:34 Jesus said: You will seek Me and shall not find Me; and, where I am, you can not come.
Jesus often explained Himself and His values by speaking parables. He spoke of fictitious characters to represent Himself and describe His points. Did Jesus speak of a fictitious God in the same manner? If God has planned and pre-destined our moment of death and all the “evil” things we do or that are done to us; then, what is the role or purpose for any Satan or devil?
Luke 19:27 Jesus said (in a parable): Now as for those enemies of Mine who did not want Me to be their King, bring them here and slay them before Me. Catholic
Jesus Said: “Bring Them Before Me And Slay Them” Does Jesus depict He wants those murdered who won’t allow Him to reign over them? So what if it was a parable? Wasn’t it Jesus Who said these words that will not go away?
Revelation 2:18-23 The Son of God (Jesus Christ) condemns a harlot for not repenting. (The same character, Jesus Christ then said): I will also put her children to death.
I personally really don’t care if this is a spiritual (fantasy) or literal passage. Don’t these passages qualify Jesus as a violent and cruel and a murderous figure? Jesus was a dreamer who may have sold some dreams and obviously some nightmares. If it were not for ego and hope, most clergy and therapists would probably be out of their con-jobs? “Is eternal death not a happier prospect than eternal existence if one can be tormented for eternity or have to be a slave to a tyrannical God for eternity?”
Anonymous Hosea 1:2 God said to Hosea: Go take a harlot for a wife.
God actually tells His prophet, Hosea, to take a hooker, prostitute, whore, harlot for his wife? What kind of model or message is God sending your son – or your daughter? Luke 10:16 Jesus equates: To reject or despise Him is to reject or despise God. How many clergy have also said: To reject them was to reject God?
John 13:23-25 One of His disciples, the one whom Jesus loved, was reclining at Jesus’ side, leaned back against Jesus’ chest.
John 19:26 (On the cross): When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved, He said to His mother: Woman, behold your son. Then He said to the disciple (He loved): Behold your mother. The disciple took her into his home. Mary Beholds Jesus Crucifixion.
Are the answers to these questions the “Honest To God” facts? Who said: No one can take My sheep out of My hand?
The Controversial Jesus Christ?
Luke 1927: Jesus Christ said: “And, as for those who would not have Me be King over them – bring them before Me and slay them”.
Revelation 2: Jesus Christ, the “Son of Man” said that He would also kill the harlot’s children.
Jesus Christ lost me on account of these two (2) Bible Chapters & Verses. GWD
The “Apocrypha” consists of books and stories submitted that did not make it into the Bible. There was a story that Jesus, as a child, was playing on the roof of a house with another little boy. Jesus knocked the other little boy off the roof and the fall killed him. When Jesus came down, the people cried to Jesus “Why did you do that?” Jesus told them to get off His back and then brought the little boy back to life.
Why do believers tend to lie concerning their descriptions of God and the Bible?
The 66 books of the “Canon” Bible were voted on by Emperor Constantine`s “The Counsel(s) of Nicaea” between 325 – 400 AD by the same bunch who maintained that the Earth was flat and the center of the Universe. They also "VOTED" for Jesus to be Divine. THEY VOTED THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS GOD.
“Canon” / Bible The Counsel(s) of Nicaea
Doesn’t the Canon / Bible prove that “truths” are competed for, voted on and chosen?
“Facts” afford no such luxury.
Who said: I came not to send peace but the sword, father against son, daughter against mother? Who said: He that has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one?
Who will rule over the house of Jacob, forever?
Who said: Whoever loves his mother etc. more than Me is not worthy of Me?
Who said: I have come to set the Earth on fire. How I wish it were already blazing?
Who said: Children will rise up against their parents and put them to death?
Who said: Without hating his mother etc. – he cannot be My disciple?
Who said to his mother: Woman, how does your concern affect Me?
Who said: Whoever believes – serpents and drinking poison will not harm them?
Who said: Friend, who appointed Me as your judge?
Who said: Sell your belongings and give alms?
Who said: Who does not renounce all his possessions cannot be My disciple?
Who was at meal in His house?
Who said that He was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
Who said: Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering heaven before you?
Who said: Heaven will pass away?
Who said: This generation will not pass away until all these things take place?
Who said: Let this cup pass from Me three (3) different times?
Who said: My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?
Who died, tombs opened, dead bodies raised and appeared to many? Where is “The Virgin Mary’s” husband, Joseph? Dead? Divorced? What? Nobody cares? The disciple, whom Jesus loved, could be Andrew’s brother, John; as none of Jesus’ brothers were His disciples. Jesus’ brother James did assume control over the church in Jerusalem after Jesus was crucified. Later, James and his crowd were wiped out. Behold, your mother cannot be literal. Also, a must requirement for discipleship was found in:
Luke 14:33: Everyone had to give up everything they owned to follow Jesus. So, John could not have had a home of his own to take Jesus’ mother into.
Raising Up From The Dead?
Matthew 27:5 Judas (Iscariot, Jesus’ betrayer) went off and hanged himself. Is this another Biblical conflict or contradiction?
Acts 1:18 Judas, falling headlong, burst open and his guts gushed out.
Jesus died for our sins: In any value system, how can justice be served by executing an innocent man for the crimes or sins of others? If we support this doctrine and its God, we support that. Would anyone volunteer his or her child for Jeffery Dahmer’s crimes?
Is Jesus Christ the supernatural Biblical God? Can the Biblical God die? Did Jesus die on the cross for the sins of mankind? If Jesus Christis the supernatural God, didn’t “know-it-all” God / Jesus know that He would continue to live beyond the cross? If Jesus Christ knew that He could not die, exactly what did Jesus sacrifice for the sins of mankind?
Don’t we support a God who wants vengeance and doesn’t care who pays the price? A Translation Argument: One great argument between Biblical authorities and us poor, Biblically illiterate is: Many of the clergy and the assumed elect manipulate the English Bible’s words by stating they don’t say what the original texts say. They refer back to the original Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew to establish authority over what is “God’s word”.
Greek Aramaic Hebrew Some assumed elect (preachers) argue for authority, control and power by stating:
Preacher: You are reading the English versions and don’t know what the Bible really says or means. You are Biblically illiterate. I will tell you what the Bible means. Convert, conform, obey and send money! If what is written in English is not what the Bible means, then they (those assumed elect) must be admitting that our English-written Bible is inaccurate and poorly written; thus flawed. Personally, I only speak and read English. It is the Catholic “easy English” version that I am most able to grasp and mostly take issue with.
Greek Aramaic Hebrew
I do struggle through the King James Version, too. Often, one version is more controversial than the other version is. If it’s not in English, I’m not guessing about it. Many see only the good things and ignore or avoid the negative things the Bible holds. Declaration: If I am wrong about most of these Biblical passages that I have selected to comment on, I am a fool. But, if I am accurate, I have learned much, and dared to share it. I am not responsible for what the Bible says. I, like you, am not responsible for how others feel about what the Bible says. I, you, and all Americans, have our Constitutional right, by law, to question and express our opinions on any and all writings. Our Future Leaders
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